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::::::::::::Much better, though to my eye not quite getting the orangey color of the other photos. I took the liberty of making my own edit. Hopefully it captures the colors correctly. I also followed your suggestion in picking up the spilled coffee cup. Further, I edited the image description page so anyone wondering why the colors were changed from red to orange will get an explanation. – [[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 01:18, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::::::In situations like this it's often best not to judge colour by eye. Human colour perception can be highly fallible. I've uploaded a version which I made with the assistance of the eyedropper tool and Info box (in Photoshop). That way I could read off the values in multiple locations as I was tweeking the adjustment, and make sure they accurately ''reflect'' the colours in one of the other photos. By 'reflect' I mean that it's also necessary to take the ambient lighting into account. Good call on the seat colours. Shame we had to upload so many different versions though. ''Little by little we progress.'' [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 04:02, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::::::The variations in shading in the images of the vinyl seat covering of this H4 car is all speculative, of course, as there were 78 of them built in 1974-75 and most remained in constant service for over 35 years. With three-and-a-half decades of wear, repair, replacement during routine maintenance, and periodic refurbishment, it is perfectly possible if not likely that the seats in this fleet could have looked quite different over the years. That being the case, any one of these versions (except probably for the original from flickr) is likely as "accurate" as any of the others and thus further speculative tweaking would pretty much be a waste of time. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 05:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::Whilst I broadly agree with everything that you're saying I think it fair to point out that if we are going to 'transplant' colour from one source to another then we should do so as accurately as possible and hope that the source is good, otherwise we are simply producing a 3rd colour which is pure invention. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 05:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

::::::::::::::::Please see the original posted request above. The requester pointed out that the seat color in the original flickr image was clearly way out of range and thus asked that it be adjusted to resemble as closely as possible that in an image representative of its known color range. I wasn't trying to "invent" anything. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 18:57, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

[[User:142.205.241.254|@142.205.241.254]], if the image definitely shows a Type H4 (and not a Type H2) it may be appropriate to request that the image be renamed. Unfortunately I can't remember how to do it and you (not being autoconfimed) might not be allowed. Perhaps you could tell us how you know that it isn't a H2, and somebody might be able to assist. [[User:Nagualdesign|nagualdesign]] ([[User talk:Nagualdesign|talk]]) 05:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

:Anyone can request a rename by inserting a [[:commons:Template:Rename|<nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki>]] template but only a [[:commons:Commons:File_renaming|filemover]] can actually rename the file and only if it follows the rename guidelines. If the name is misrepresentative of what the image actually is, then that's a perfectly valid reason. Before requesting a rename however it would be good to not only be sure, but to offer some sort of evidence that it's actually misnamed. Once a rename template is placed, it takes anywhere from a couple hours to a couple days for a filemover to wander over and either perform the rename, or remove your request with a reason why. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Jbarta|JBarta]] ([[User talk:Jbarta#top|talk]]) 06:55, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

:The variations in shading in the images of the vinyl seat covering of this H4 car is all speculative, of course, as there were 78 of them built in 1974-75 and most remained in constant service for over 35 years. With three-and-a-half decades of wear, repair, replacement during routine maintenance, and periodic refurbishment, it is perfectly possible if not likely that the seats in this fleet could have looked quite different over the years. That being the case, any one of these versions (except probably for the original from flickr) is likely as "accurate" as any of the others and thus further speculative tweaking would pretty much be a waste of time. [[User:Centpacrr|Centpacrr]] ([[User talk:Centpacrr|talk]]) 05:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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