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::Here's a quote from Microsoft in an article titled 'Microsoft on the Enterprise Service Bus (ESB)': "The ESB label simply implies that a product is some type of integration middleware product that supports both MOM ([[Message-oriented middleware]]) and Web services protocols."[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa475433(BTS.10).aspx microsoft.com] [[User:Pratyeka|prat]] ([[User talk:Pratyeka|talk]]) 05:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
: I am against merging [[Middleware]] with [[Message-oriented middleware]] and [[Enterprise service bus]]. I am ok with merging [[Message Broker]] into [[Message-oriented middleware]]. I am ok with having some (if not all) of [[Enterprise messaging system]] into [[Message-oriented middleware]]. These are completely different things. A middleware is just any infrastructure framework or system. So yes, an ESB is a middleware, just like an application server is while they are very different in what they do. A MOM can be accessed by an ESB, but en ESB can also access Web services or a DB, etc. Disjoint again. A [[message broker]] is actually a MOM so I think it is safe to merge them together. However, it is also an enterprise design pattern, so I think we can remove some work you cannot really make it disappear like this. Finally [[Enterprise messaging system]] is (as described in the article itself) a set of practices, not any implementation really, but there is an enormous overlap with [[Message-oriented middleware]]. I suppose some (if not all) of this can be merged? [[User:JnRouvignac|JnRouvignac]] ([[User talk:JnRouvignac|talk]]) 17:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:I agree 100% with JnRouvignac. When there are two topics, and they are both important and require considerable discussion, and one is much more general than the other, it makes sense to have two Wikipedia articles. Should we merge "War" and "World War 2"? [[User:Paul Foxworthy|Paul Foxworthy]] ([[User talk:Paul Foxworthy|talk]]) 05:49, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
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