Wikipedia talk:Non-free content: Difference between revisions

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:Our fair use policy is not just based on legality. Wikipedia is about free content, so fair use images are kept to a minimum. They are required on the article discussing the company, they are not required on an article dicussing a product of the company. Fair use claims have to be made for each use, which is why you can't have images on templates. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">[[User:ed_g2s|ed g2s]] &bull; [[User talk:ed_g2s|talk]]</span> 14:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I think it needs to be stated that what got this discussion in motion was your removing of the logos, and your doing so without a clear explanation or even an attempted discussion before you made the move to remove them.<br>As I said in our conversations since then, I do not find your arguments enlightening, nor do I find them to persuasive, I simply see them as your statement as to how the policy is worded, and an implied theory of free content.<br>As a sign of good faith, even though we disagree with the policy, we have proposed a change that would permit their use in an open forum. As for what “our” policy does and does not permit, that is why we are having this discussion, to see if changing our policy makes sense. As for your assertion that legality isn’t the only the reason, that Wikipedia is about free use, this is an instance, unlike any other that we can think of on Wikipedia, that makes sense as a form of continuity and where we believe that an exception needs to be made. [[User:Stude62|Stude62]] 15:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I find your statement that Wikipedia being about free content and fair use kept to a minimum to be illogical. While I can understand that getting original images is preferable over copywritten, a logo is a case where it is impossible to get an original. I can go out and take an image of a Studebaker and use it under your argument, I can't include the Studebaker logo in article about the particular car? That isn't logical argument. I would also like to point out that your comment ("Fair use claims have to be made for each use, which is why you can't have images on templates") makes perfect sense in a black and white world, which this is not. [[User:Stude62|Stude62]] 15:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)