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::::::::Because PC is only used on pages that would be semiprotected otherwise, I don't know of situations where PC allows fewer people to edit in the second sense. If there was a proposal to change lots of pages from unprotected to PC, that would be different, but as things stand the only change is from semiprotected to PC. — Carl <small>([[User:CBM|CBM]] · [[User talk:CBM|talk]])</small> 18:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::That is because you are thinking of the hereandnow, CBM, as opposed to the long-term, where PC will (not could, ''will'') be requested on unprotected articles. —<font color="228B22">[[User:Jéské Couriano|''Jeremy'']] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|v^_^v]]</font> <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Bori!]]</small></sup> 19:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Why PC allows fewer people to edit: If there's an unconfirmed user's edit waiting to be reviewed, then I (as a confirmed editor who is not a reviewer) cannot edit (in the second sense). I'm effectively reduced to being an unconfirmed user in that position.--[[User:Victor Yus|Victor Yus]] ([[User talk:Victor Yus|talk]]) 19:23, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
*"Editing BLP's irresponsibly actually makes the subject of the biography less free since the subject would become affected by forces (i.e. the irresponsible revisions) outside of his or her control." In related news, it's not certain whether or not the reviewer would suffer legal responsibility for approving sneaky libellous vandalism. I'm unsure whether or not the Foundation has answered that question, but if reviewers are, then they share some of the liability when something like this inevitably happens. —<font color="228B22">[[User:Jéské Couriano|''Jeremy'']] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|v^_^v]]</font> <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Bori!]]</small></sup> 19:08, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
*"Effective tools to combat persistent vandalism, BLP violations, and other unconstructive edits already exist, and they work well; other options have been identified but not actively considered." Since this point was brought up, what's wrong with the [[WP:Edit filter|edit filter]]? Where has [[User:Cluebot|Cluebot]] seriously erred? Why are the other antivandalism tools in the arsenal, '''except''' semiprotection, not being brought up? —<font color="228B22">[[User:Jéské Couriano|''Jeremy'']] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|v^_^v]]</font> <sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Bori!]]</small></sup> 19:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
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