Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Education Program extension: Difference between revisions

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#Why should we restrict other people than those officially permitted by the Ed Program from using it? However that program is eventually set up, and we can expect several different arrangements during a period of transition. there will be other ways to run courses. Some of them will probably be as good as the official way. Had we in the past been limited to what the education program of the time did, we would have lost many good courses. I am reasonably confident that the new program, under the control of its own organization and benefitting from several terms of experience, will be substantially better than what the Foundation has been doing, but it won't be perfect. I am reasonably confident, but I am not certain; there's at least a potential that it might not be satisfactory--for example, that it might have requirements at odds with what the others at enWP think productive. At present, the plans are to have it entirely separate both from us and the Foundation. If we do this, we are setting up something to be run on the enWP that will not be under the control of the enWP. It's absurd at this stage to be this inflexible.

:E:Here's a real examples of why it will be wrong to limit: in the coming year, the Program knows it will not be able to accommodate all the requests for courses. Indeed, any new requests coming in now, however well prepared, will not even be considered due to the short time available. But some of these courses may be reasonably well structured. Some may even be better structured than most of the official courses. Most of them could benefit from this extension, if it is done right. This proposal prevents them from it. And for those that might not be very well set up, being able to use the extension will help them do it better. We cannot prevent anyone who pleases from running a course to write on WP--it's part of the basic rule that anyone can edit. Using this extension gives us a possibility of giving them some help and some control. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 04:51, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

#The WEP does not represent all classes on Wikipedia, therefore it should not exclusively benefit from this extension. As the IEP has demonstrated, the WMF cannot be trusted to hand out these permissions. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 07:12, 27 August 2012 (UTC)