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:::: Ah, I was simply suggesting a solution to an ungainly large software list that is the conventional solution to such problems at Wikipedia; there are many more lists of software pages and comparison of software pages than the two examples I gave. There are enough articles that are lists of software on Wikipedia that it ''is'' a convention and the warning against comparisons to arbitrary pages in [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]] doesn't really apply. Regarding external links not being cited by reliable independent sources, that is just about all of them at Wikipedia. As far as I can tell, the external links here fall under [[WP:ELMAYBE]]: the links may not be reliable sources themselves, but they still have useful information about FDTD modeling capabilities of their own software. [[User:Mark viking|Mark viking]] ([[User talk:Mark viking|talk]]) 18:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::I am not saying that EL should be reliably sourced, I am saying that EL should not be used as a substitute for a properly sourced list. '''[[User:Spinningspark|<font style="background:#fafad2;color:#C08000">Spinning</font>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<font style="color:#4840a0">Spark'''</font>]]''' 23:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' I am not inclined to suggest that I am much bothered. Both sides have merit, and my sympathies are mainly with MV, but I must say that if anyone raised formal objections to the list, it would be hard to sustain support for retaining it. Possibly pruning it to a list of "notable" packages or something?... Dunno. [[User:JonRichfield|JonRichfield]] ([[User talk:JonRichfield|talk]]) 21:03, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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