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I notice that the recognised parameters for the five "main" taskforces are not the same as those for those provided via {{tlx|WPBannerMeta/hooks/taskforces}}. Ignoring the permitted number of taskforces (5 vs 10), I've found that {{tlx|WPBannerMeta}} doesn't recognise {{para|TF_1_PORTAL}}. This has come to light because {{diff|Template:WikiProject Novels|prev|517453725|this edit}} only added two portal boxes, not the expected three. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

:The TF PORTAL params are only support through the hook mechnism. As to reason why, I'm not sure. But I've fixed it by stopping to use the 5 builtin ones and adding more hooks. See [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WikiProject_Novels&diff=517459238&oldid=517453725 this edit]. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 20:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== Request for Modification ==

Hi. On what page is the the text, "This article has been rated as ???-importance on the project's importance scale." Specifically I am asking about the output from {{tl|WikiProject Freemasonry|class=|importance=}} template. I want to know where to go to look at the code that outputs the text, "This article has been rated."

Thanks. <span style="font-family:Georgia">[[User:RiverStyx23|RiverStyx23]]</span>{^{[[User talk:RiverStyx23|talk]]}_{[[Special:EmailUser/RiverStyx23|email]]}} 18:38, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

:It's in [[Template:WPBannerMeta/importancescale]] -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 20:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

::OK, the talk page for that comes back here, so here goes. As I understand the importance rating, it grades the importance of the <u>subject matter</u> of the article, not the article itself. Thus I suggest the wording be changed from "This article has been rated as ???-importance on the project's importance scale" to "This <u>subject matter of this</u> article has been rated as ???-importance on the project's importance scale." <span style="font-family:Georgia">[[User:RiverStyx23|RiverStyx23]]</span>{^{[[User talk:RiverStyx23|talk]]}_{[[Special:EmailUser/RiverStyx23|email]]}} 20:46, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Burp... or bump... or something...? <span style="font-family:Georgia">[[User:RiverStyx23|River<font color="black">Styx</font>23]]</span>{_{[[Special:EmailUser/RiverStyx23|submarine]]}^{[[User talk:RiverStyx23|target]]}} 23:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== These banners might be breaking WP's community ==

Hi,

Discussion on Talk pages has been dwindling for years. I used to be able to post questions and expect some kind of reply in the coming weeks or months, but the replies have been drying up drastically.

I'm starting to think that the problem is that when someone clicks on a Talk page, they used to see a table of contents with a list of discussions and questions, but nowadays they see a bunch of boxes.

I don't know where to raise this. Anyone got ideas for other ways to include these boxes without hiding the Talk page table of contents? And what forum I should use to raise this issue? [[User:Gronky|Gronky]] ([[User talk:Gronky|talk]]) 17:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

:You could enclose the WikiProject banners in either {{tlx|WikiProjectBanners}} or {{tlx|WikiProjectBannerShell}}; or you could set {{para|small|yes}} on each WikiProject banner. The {{para|small|yes}} parameter, although not documented on all WikiProject banners, is recognised by the vast majority (I don't know of any that don't, but I've not checked them all). Please note:

:*{{para|small|yes}} doesn't work properly in conjunction with either {{tlx|WikiProjectBanners}} or {{tlx|WikiProjectBannerShell}} so you should pick one method or the other, but not both;

:*these techniques don't work for those boxes which are not WikiProject banners. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 18:06, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

::Thanks. I'll look into that. I fear it won't be enough to make the table of contents visible without scrolling, but there might be ways to get there from what you recommend. One idea would be to have the small banners appear on the right-hand edge of the screen. Fixing the problem this way would also involve all banners having this feature, and it being on by default, so I'll still have to find the forum where such conventions can be suggested and defended. [[User:Gronky|Gronky]] ([[User talk:Gronky|talk]]) 21:27, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

:::Er... don't the small banners already appear on the right? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:16, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

::::Thanks :-) I was thinking of something else. I've got it working now on [[Talk:Emacs]]. I'll give that a try for a few months and see if things pick up again. [[User:Gronky|Gronky]] ([[User talk:Gronky|talk]]) 06:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

:Or there's {{tl|skip to talk}} where the. But if people don't feel like pressing the "down" button on the keyboard to get past the boxes (which aren't generally as numerous as at, say, [[Talk:Richard Nixon]], what makes you think that they would be bothered to reply to messages anyway? Isn't more likely to be related to a decline in active editors? [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i>^Talk</i>]] 22:27, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

::I think this problem began before the problem of declining editors, and I think replies have declines faster than number of editors. Just my perceptions. {{tl|skip to talk}} is better than nothing, but I think the problem is that the table of contents doesn't stand out when people look at Talk pages. (It's often not even in the first screenful.) ...and I think this my require a project-wide solution rather than one where I modify the Talk pages I use (which might then be undone by the archive bots - who are probably also a lesser cause of this problem). [[User:Gronky|Gronky]] ([[User talk:Gronky|talk]]) 05:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)