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::Ah, I implemented this before I saw your post, [[User:Redrose64|Redrose]]. Let me know if you want me to revert the edits, or feel free to do it yourself if you want. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' ^{[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]} 09:16, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

:::Actually, I could see that this broke the test cases that use both {{para|1}} and {{para|content}}, so I've undone my edits myself. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' ^{[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]} 09:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

== Template:Documentation/start box ==

{{edit protected|answered=yes}}

Hi please go to [[Template:Documentation/start box/sandbox]] and copy the code and paste it in [[Template:Documentation/start box]] please because I have managed to put view edit history and purge to the rot like it was before they removed something in Mediawiki 1.22 [[Special:Contributions/90.218.219.230|90.218.219.230]] ([[User talk:90.218.219.230|talk]]) 14:50, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

:Just use the Gadget ''"Move section [edit] links to the right side of the screen."'' you can find [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets|here]]. It will move all edit links (section edit links as well as those found in this template) to the right, similar as it has been before. The links were moved on purpose in this template to be on par with the current default. --[[User:Patrick87|Patrick87]] ([[User talk:Patrick87|talk]]) 15:09, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

::oh ok but I have moved it back to the right using <nowiki><span style="float:right; font-size:100%;"></nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/90.218.219.230|90.218.219.230]] ([[User talk:90.218.219.230|talk]]) 15:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

:::Yes but you 1) probably used old code in the sandbox (class="editsection" instead of the current "mw-editsection"); 2) should not move the link manually. It's better to have it consistently with other section edit links. --[[User:Patrick87|Patrick87]] ([[User talk:Patrick87|talk]]) 15:33, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

::::ok yes I put it back to edit section and remove mw- because when I used the code shown above it would work with mw- [[Special:Contributions/90.218.219.230|90.218.219.230]] ([[User talk:90.218.219.230|talk]]) 15:35, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

:::::{{EP|n}} The proposed change will [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ComparePages?page1=Template%3ADocumentation%2Fstart+box&rev1=545276199&page2=Template%3ADocumentation%2Fstart+box%2Fsandbox revert to an old version] and introduce a bug at the same time - a potentially unbalanced opening {{tag|span|o}} --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 16:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

::::::do you how I can fix the bug and what will the bug cause [[Special:Contributions/90.218.219.230|90.218.219.230]] ([[User talk:90.218.219.230|talk]]) 18:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

:::::::I've already introduced it to several other wikipedia wikis and it works for example [http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templat:Dokumentasi] and [http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templat:Pendokumenan] [[Special:Contributions/90.218.219.230|90.218.219.230]] ([[User talk:90.218.219.230|talk]]) 18:22, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

::::::::{{EP|c}} In the case of the second one, [//ms.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Templat:Pendokumenan/kotak_permulaan&diff=3227878&oldid=3222882 your actual edit] differs little from the edit that you want to make here; but in the case of the first, [//id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Templat:Dokumentasi/start_box&diff=6973673&oldid=6952585 your actual edit] is not just a regression but is even more buggy than the edit that you want here - there is an opening {{tag|span|o}} which is not potentially unbalanced, but ''always'' unbalanced. It might be that those other Wikipedias didn't realise the potential harm in these edits, but the fact that they permitted them doesn't mean that they were beneficial edits, nor that they will be beneficial here. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:01, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi I am not sure if I've fix the bug because I have moved <nowiki><span></nowiki> down a bit on [[Template:Documentation/start box/sandbox]] [[Special:Contributions/90.215.222.243|90.215.222.243]] ([[User talk:90.215.222.243|talk]]) 17:50, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

:{{EP|n}} (i) there is no consensus; (ii) it is still a regression; (iii) it is ''still'' opening more {{tag|span|o}} than it is closing. Please do not reactivate this unless you can prove that it is a necessary change that will not compromise existing usage. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 18:35, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

::Hi I have reverted to the new mw- edit and have added <nowiki><span style="float:right; font-size:100%;"></nowiki> to it [[Special:Contributions/90.216.250.151|90.216.250.151]] ([[User talk:90.216.250.151|talk]]) 07:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

:::Although this is no longer a regression, there is still no consensus, and it is still opening more {{tag|span|o}} than it is closing. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 09:05, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

::::so if I close <nowiki><span></nowiki> will that fix the problem [[Special:Contributions/90.218.199.20|90.218.199.20]] ([[User talk:90.218.199.20|talk]]) 18:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

:::::I don't even see why you need two spans. Your additional one seems to be present solely to apply <code>style="float:right; font-size:100%;"</code> but there is no apparent reason why that could not go as an additional attribute of the existing span:

::::::{{tag|span|o|params=class="mw-editsection plainlinks" id="doc_editlinks" style="float:right; font-size:100%;"}}

:::::But I'm still not putting this live without consensus - which means that there has to be a demonstrable need for it. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

:::::::ok how do I start a consensus [[Special:Contributions/81.129.86.23|81.129.86.23]] ([[User talk:81.129.86.23|talk]]) 13:58, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

::::::::Not at all... consensus would be if some editors answered here in favor of your proposal. Actually I already opposed your suggestion, so there is clearly no consensus for your change right now.

::::::::What do you try to achieve with it anyway? If you don't like the current look, just use the Gadget I mentioned (as I do! &ndash; at least the CSS out of it...) and all edit links will be moved to the right for you, exactly as they were before the MediaWiki change. It doesn't make any sense to introduce an inconsistency on purpose here, by moving the edit section links of the documentation template to the right. Other edit links will stays next to the heading. --[[User:Patrick87|Patrick87]] ([[User talk:Patrick87|talk]]) 14:52, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

:{{od|:::::::}}BTW, you need to [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|create an account]] to use the gadget Patrick mentioned. (For a more technical alternative that doesn't need an account, copy the contents of [[MediaWiki:Gadget-righteditlinks.css]] into your browser's user CSS file. Where to find this depends on your browser and operating system; you might need to create it if it doesn't exist.)

:For more information on consensus, I suggest you read [[Wikipedia:Consensus]]. –&#160;'''[[User:PartTimeGnome|PartTimeGnome]]''' <span style="font-size:79%">([[User talk:PartTimeGnome|talk]]&#160;&#124; [[Special:Contributions/PartTimeGnome|contribs]])</span> 22:11, 20 July 2013 (UTC)