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I have created [[Template:Uw-puf-remove]], a new user warning template for removing the {{tl|puf}} template, by analogy with [[Template:uw-copyright-remove]]. —[[User:Psychonaut|Psychonaut]] ([[User talk:Psychonaut|talk]]) 19:25, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

== {{tl|uw-vandalism1}} ==

<s>It currently reads 'I undid one of [[Special:Contributions/{{BASEPAGENAME}}|your recent contributions]], such as the one you made to {{{1}}}'. There has been some discussion of this and I'm surprised no grammatically correct solution was accepted; the current wording makes no sense. I thought it still had the perfectly sensible 'one or more', actually. I have heard the argument that 'one or more' makes it seem as if we are saying that 'your contribs all suck, who knows how many got reverted' - but, by that same logic, one might say that the wording 'such as' implies 'your contribs all suck, who knows ''which one(s)'' got reverted/to which page you contributed to/etc.'. Am I the only one who sees this?

My point is not that it actually ''does'' come off that way, but that if it is phrased this way now and not causing any problems, we might as well introduce another piece of wording that might have the same implication but at least makes it make sense - that is, to say 'I undid one or more [...]'.

To be grammatically correct, the template would have to say (roughly) 'I undid one or more of your recent contributions, such as the one you made to {{{1}}}' or 'I undid one of your recent contributions that you made to {{{1}}}'. It has been argued that the latter wording is too terse. I don't see the logic for this, however.

So which one should we go with: nonsensical and grammatically flawed, possibly too 'brushing-off', or too 'terse'? I would like to see us adopt wording that makes sense. [[User:Cathfolant|Cathfolant]] ([[User talk:Cathfolant|talk]]) 01:28, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually, on re-reading what I wrote I think 'one [...] such as the one' is actually an ok grammatical structure. I'm not always sure about these things...in any case, however, I think we should possibly provide for the instance of warning after reverting more than one contribution. If 'one or more', which would convey this nicely, is truly unacceptable we should include some sort of parameter. [[User:Cathfolant|Cathfolant]] ([[User talk:Cathfolant|talk]]) 01:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

That is, something to the effect of '<nowiki>I undid {{#ifeq:{{{1|one}}}|several|several|one}} of [[Special:Contributions/{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>BASEPAGENAME}}|your recent contributions]]{{#if:{{{2|{{{1|}}}}}|{{#ifeq:{{{1|one}}}|several|, such as the one you made to [[{{{2}}}]]{{#if:{{{3|}}}| with <span class=plainlinks>[{{{3}}} this edit]</span>}}| that you made to [[{{{1}}}]]{{#if:{{{2|}}}| with <span class=plainlinks>[{{{2}}} this edit]</span>}}}}}} because {{#ifeq:{{{1|one}}}|several|they|it}} didn't appear constructive.</nowiki>'. How does that sound? Half-decent? [[User:Cathfolant|Cathfolant]] ([[User talk:Cathfolant|talk]]) 01:43, 30 August 2013 (UTC)</s>

I have no idea what prompted me to write all that rubbish. The template does in fact say 'one or more'. [[User:Cathfolant|Cathfolant]] ([[User talk:Cathfolant|talk]]) 01:50, 30 August 2013 (UTC)