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:Do you (or someone) live near any of [http://www.worldcat.org/title/american-classic-screen/oclc/3334436&referer=brief_results these libraries]? For example, CMU claims to have v.3 (1978/1979)-v.7 (1983). Not all have all issues, but some seem like they might have this. [[User:Chris857|Chris857]] ([[User talk:Chris857|talk]]) 04:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
::I'd be theoretically in range to make a day trip out to KU, but getting the opportunity to make the trip this time of year may be challenging. Worst case, I'll try to arrange that in a couple weeks, but I'm hoping I get lucky here in the meantime. [[User:Squeamish Ossifrage|Squeamish Ossifrage]] ([[User talk:Squeamish Ossifrage|talk]]) 04:29, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
=== December 2013 ===
 
==== Wiley Online Library ====
 
I'd like to get access to [http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9780470670606.wbecc1257/abstract this article] in order to verify claims in the [[Jesus]] and [[Shroud of Turin]] articles. (Gary R. Habermas, Published Online: 25 NOV 2011, DOI: 10.1002/9780470670606.wbecc1257)--[[User:FutureTrillionaire|FutureTrillionaire]] ([[User talk:FutureTrillionaire|talk]]) 21:49, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 
==== More book reviews for De l'un au multiple: Traductions du chinois vers les langues européenes ====
*"[http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=3659064 De l'un au multiple: Traductions du chinois vers les langues européenes]." [[Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies]] / Volume 63 / Issue 03 / January 2000, pp 443-444
** "[http://benjamins.com/#catalog/journals/babel.48.4.13xiu/details Review of “De l’un au multiple: Traductions du chinois vers les langues européennes” by Viviane Alleton & Michael Lackner] Compte rendu par Yu Xiuying . DOI: 10.1075/babel.48.4.13xiu In: Babel 48:4. 2002. (pp. 381–384)
For [[De l'un au multiple: Traductions du chinois vers les langues européenes]]
--[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 06:11, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
::I sent both, but page 382 in Xiuying appears blank to me. I tried downloading twice from ingentaconnect, but same result. --<font face="georgia">[[User:Atethnekos|Atethnekos]]&nbsp;</font><font face="georgia" size="1">([[User talk:Atethnekos|Discussion]],&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Atethnekos|Contributions]])</font> 06:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:::What's really strange is that I also have access to this journal through the ALJC, but for this issue it ends on p. 381! And thirdly I have access through EbscoHost, but it only goes back to Feb. 2003. P. 382 of that issue is the only page of this journal going back to Jan. 2000 which I do not have. --<font face="georgia">[[User:Atethnekos|Atethnekos]]&nbsp;</font><font face="georgia" size="1">([[User talk:Atethnekos|Discussion]],&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Atethnekos|Contributions]])</font> 07:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
::::I wonder if that page is intentionally blank (the phrase in 381 starts "Ces titres en témoignent de l’objectif: non pour élaborer une théorie de la traduction mais pour mettre en" and in 383... "l’original, en particulier pour la littérature chinoise, mais à séduire le public, ainsi a-til cherché avant tout l’élégance du texte traduit.") ? It would be good to wait for other editors to download from other sources. Thank you for your help [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 07:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::My French is subpar, but that sentence doesn't read like sensible French to me: She's saying the titles show the objective of the work, which is not "to elaborate a new theory of translation, but to...", but using "pour mettre en ... l'original," to finish the clause just doesn't make sense to me (set the original?), nor would it with the rest of the sentence. Also, note that the next paragraph then starts: "La troisième partie"; well what happened to the second part? I'm guessing the first word on 382 is "avant" (i.e., "put forward" [a thesis]). --<font face="georgia">[[User:Atethnekos|Atethnekos]]&nbsp;</font><font face="georgia" size="1">([[User talk:Atethnekos|Discussion]],&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Atethnekos|Contributions]])</font> 08:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Ok. In that case one page definitely is missing. I wonder if somebody with access to another database will be able to get a complete version of this essay [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 18:06, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::::: [[User:WhisperToMe]], here's a good copy[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19774761/De%20l%E2%80%99un%20au%20multiple.pdf]. [[User:OhanaUnited|<b><font color="#0000FF">OhanaUnited</font></b>]][[User talk:OhanaUnited|<b><font color="green"><sup>Talk page</sup></font></b>]] 06:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
::::::::: Does page 382 display? I tried the file but Acrobat said there was an error in the page [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 07:34, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::: Nope. Looks like the source itself had an error during PDF creation. [[User:OhanaUnited|<b><font color="#0000FF">OhanaUnited</font></b>]][[User talk:OhanaUnited|<b><font color="green"><sup>Talk page</sup></font></b>]] 23:58, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 
==== Proborhyaena ====
I'm looking for this article of palaeontology, I hope someone could have access to it:
* Bondesio, P. y R. Pascual. 1983. Nuevos y elocuentes restos craneanos de Proborhyaena gigantea Ameghino, 1897 [Marsupialia, Borhyaenidae Proborhyaeninae] de la Edad Deseadense: Un ejemplo de coevolución. Ameghiniana. 20 (1-2): 47-60. [http://www.ameghiniana.org.ar/index.php/ameghiniana/article/viewArticle/1791]. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Rextron|Rextron]] ([[User talk:Rextron|talk]]) 10:11, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 
 
====Przegląd lekarski====
Does anyone have access to this Polish medical journal? If you do, I'm after:
 
{{Cite journal | last1 = Kochanowski | first1 = M. | last2 = Kała | first2 = M. | title = Tetrahydrocannabinols in clinical and forensic toxicology. | journal = Przegl Lek | volume = 62 | issue = 6 | pages = 576–80 | month = | year = 2005 | doi = | PMID = 16225128 }}
 
to clarify a claim at [[Talk:Cannabis (drug)]]. Cheers. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole|email]]) 05:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 
==== Avicenna in "Arabic alchemy" ====
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Hi, "Georges C. Anawati (1996), "Arabic alchemy", in Roshdi Rashed, ed., Encyclopedia of the History of Arabic Science, Vol. 3, p. 853–885 [875]" is used as a reference twice in the [[Avicenna]] article, once to provide a list of four works by Avicenna, once to support the statement: "Among his works on alchemy, Liber Aboali Abincine de Anima in arte Alchemiae was the most influential, having influenced later medieval chemists and alchemists such as Vincent of Beauvais". Please could someone send me the article, or if that's too much, the relevant pages on Avicenna / Ibn Sina. One of the things I'm interested in is whether Avicenna actually wrote the works listed in the [[Avicenna]] article, as another Anawati reference I found said Avicenna did not write three of four works attributed to him. Thanks.
--[[User:Merlinme|Merlinme]] ([[User talk:Merlinme|talk]]) 17:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
:Sent. I hate it when sources are misrepresented. Anawati on 375–6 is explicit in saying that he agrees with Ruska that ''De anima'' is a fake. --<font face="georgia">[[User:Atethnekos|Atethnekos]]&nbsp;</font><font face="georgia" size="1">([[User talk:Atethnekos|Discussion]],&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Atethnekos|Contributions]])</font> 21:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you. I'm afraid the misrepresentation of the source is not exactly a surprise, this is part of the [[WP:Requests_for_comment/Jagged_85]] cleanup. Still clearing up his mess nearly four years later. --[[User:Merlinme|Merlinme]] ([[User talk:Merlinme|talk]]) 09:35, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Merlinme}} Thank you for pointing out that case to me. Anecdotally I have noticed such "boosterism"; I guess I'm not the only one. People who take part in such an activity may think they are improving the reputations of their favoured groups, but when their activity is discovered, their groups' reputations are harmed because the groups become associated with this dishonest behaviour. Also, the level of trust about claims on the topic is diminished: If such behaviour were ubiquitous for a topic, then people would simply ignore everything said about the topic, because they wouldn't trust any of it. The topic would become ignored entirely: The exact opposite of what the boosters might hope. And then there is the real harm: The people who have more than a passing interest in the topics start by being misinformed, but then—when they go on to read more on the topic—they become confused due to the conflicting reports, and their whole progress in understanding the topic is retarded. --<font face="georgia">[[User:Atethnekos|Atethnekos]]&nbsp;</font><font face="georgia" size="1">([[User talk:Atethnekos|Discussion]],&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Atethnekos|Contributions]])</font> 04:34, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Atethnekos}}The Jagged_85 case is in a class of its own. I sincerely hope we never see anything like it again. What made his edits so damaging was that they ''looked like'' they were well sourced. A lot of editors don't check references; very few indeed check references which are not available online, and Jagged_85 frequently used hard to check sources with incomplete references. This was made far worse by his prodigious output, at one point he was in the top 100 editors by number of edits. He would copy the same bad material with bad references into a dozen articles. Not only does the boosterism cause confusion and perhaps even a backlash against the exaggeration, it's immensely damaging to Wikipedia's reputation. Wikipedia references are supposed to be how you know an article is well-sourced; if you can't trust what look like good references to scholarly articles, Wikipedia is nearly useless. Some of his mistakes have been used as examples in newspapers to show how unreliable Wikipedia is. I was never quite sure if they were mistakes; at the very least, he made definitive statements about things he didn't understand. Sometimes what he wrote was so ridiculous (Avicenna was the first to describe the lever was one of my favourites) then he must surely have known that he was essentially making it up.
::::It can take 100 hours work to clean-up even one article, given how time consuming it is to track down all the references. It also requires a fair amount of understanding quite difficult sources. One of his favourite tactics was to use an article that mentions X and Y to say that X ''invented'' Y, and you have to understand what the article actually does say before you can correct his edit. I did a philosophy degree and I'm happy skimming scholarly articles to get the required information, but I can understand why few others have the understanding and patience to get involved. The time I have available is fairly limited, although I have a bit more at the moment. If you feel the urge to get involved, I'm sure your help would be much appreciated. --[[User:Merlinme|Merlinme]] ([[User talk:Merlinme|talk]]) 18:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
:Inexplicably, my library has only volume 2, but if you ever need anything from that, let me know. [[User:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">Gamaliel</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">talk</font>]])</small> 19:57, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 
 
==== Article about Titanic, May 16, 1912 issue of the ''Al-Khawater'' magazine, at American University of Beirut ====
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Does anyone have access to the May 16, 1912 issue of the ''Al-Khawater'' magazine about the Titanic, at the [[American University of Beirut]]?
* For [[Passengers of the Titanic]]
* See: "[http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Local-News/2012/Apr-15/170324-bekaa-village-remembers-lebanese-titanic-victims.ashx#axzz2nnvxx17p Bekaa village remembers Lebanese Titanic victims]." ''Daily Star'', 15 April 2012.
--[[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 06:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==== Up to date reviews requested on orofacial pain and toothache ====
* {{ok}} Shephard MK, Macgregor EA, Zakrzewska JM. Orofacial Pain: A Guide for the Headache Physician. Headache. 2013 Nov 21. doi: 10.1111/head.12272. PubMed: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24261452] paywalled here: [http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/head.12272/abstract]
* Kumar A, Brennan MT. Differential diagnosis of orofacial pain and temporomandibular disorder. Dent Clin North Am. 2013 Jul;57(3):419-28. doi: 10.1016/j.cden.2013.04.003. PubMed: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23809301] paywalled here: [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011853213000281]
 
Myself and another editor are currently re-working [[toothache]] and [[orofacial pain]]. I am finding it difficult to find good sources in full text. Many thanks if anyone can help us. --[[User:Lesion|<font color="maroon">'''Lesion'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Lesion|<font color="maroon">''talk''</font>]]) 15:31, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
:An editor kindly emailed me the first. If anyone has access to the latter, please let me know. [[User:Lesion|<font color="maroon">'''Lesion'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Lesion|<font color="maroon">''talk''</font>]]) 00:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 
Some more in the same theme:
 
* De Rossi SS. Orofacial pain: a primer. Dent Clin North Am. 2013 Jul;57(3):383-92. PubMed: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23809298] paywalled here: [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011853213000268].
* <s>Renton T, Durham J, Aggarwal VR. The classification and differential diagnosis of orofacial pain. Expert Rev Neurother. 2012 May;12(5):569-76. PubMed: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22550985] paywalled here: [http://www.expert-reviews.com/doi/abs/10.1586/ern.12.40?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3dpubmed].</s> Many thanks, [[User:Lesion|<font color="maroon">'''Lesion'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Lesion|<font color="maroon">''talk''</font>]]) 04:59, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:Second article emailed. [[User:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">Gamaliel</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">talk</font>]])</small> 17:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 
==== Elixir Poisoning in Medieval China ====
Please check availability of:
*Ho, Peng Yoke and Joseph Needham, "Elixir Poisoning in Medieval China", ''Janus'', vol. 48 (1959), pp. 221-251; reprinted in ''Clerks and Craftsmen in China and the West'', Joseph Needham, Cambridge University Press (1970), pp. 316-339.
Thanks, [[User:Keahapana|Keahapana]] ([[User talk:Keahapana|talk]]) 23:37, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:[http://books.google.com/books?id=m_I8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA316 It's not complete] but it's something. [[User:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">Gamaliel</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">talk</font>]])</small> 06:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 
::Yes, thanks, I'd seen this truncated GB version, which is why I want the full article. [[User:Keahapana|Keahapana]] ([[User talk:Keahapana|talk]]) 00:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 
====''Guns in American Society: An Encyclopedia of History, Politics, Culture, and the Law''' (Gregg Lee Carter, ABC-CLIO 2002) ====
If someone could provide me the entry on "Holocaust imagery and gun control", I'd be most grateful. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 05:04, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
:I don't see that entry in the Table of Contents [http://hollis.harvard.edu/?q=Guns%20in%20American%20Society:%20An%20Encyclopedia%20of%20History,%20Politics,%20Culture,%20and%20the%20Law here].[[User:GabrielF|GabrielF]] ([[User talk:GabrielF|talk]]) 05:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
: It's on [http://books.google.com/books?id=oD46JBOhMU0C&pg=PA411& Google Books]. [[User:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">Gamaliel</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<font color="DarkGreen">talk</font>]])</small> 05:10, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
::Looks like its in the 2012 edition but not the 2002 edition.[[User:GabrielF|GabrielF]] ([[User talk:GabrielF|talk]]) 06:07, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
 
====Ampelosaurus ref needed====
I found this ref {{cite doi|10.1016/j.cretres.2009.07.010}} I would really like to have it so I can expand ''[[Ampelosaurus]]'' (I know, it looks pretty big, but it's for the Paleoecology section). Thanks a lot in advance!!!!!! [[User:Reid,iain james|Iainstein]] ([[User talk:Reid,iain james|talk]]) 00:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 
:Email me and I'll reply with a PDF. [[User:Burmeister|Burmeister]] ([[User talk:Burmeister|talk]]) 23:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
::{{ping|Reid,iain james}} wonder if you followed up. [[User:Shyamal|Shyamal]] ([[User talk:Shyamal|talk]]) 07:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)