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**Good points. I changed the x264 to Xvid. I have also rewritten the second part. Thanks for the very helpful suggestions :). [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 13:22, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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See [[algorithm]]. Format is rather a file format or a special container format. Why do we need this article and [[Video codec]]? <span style="text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em black">[[User:ScotXW]]</span><sup>[[User talk:ScotXW|t@lk]]</sup> 20:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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::I called the article "Video compression format" instead of "Video compression standard" when I created it because all the Wikipedia pages for individual specifications called it "Video compression format". I wrote this article to further my own understanding (I was confused about codec vs format, because everybody were using them interchangably, wrongly), so there were absolutely no expert judgement behind the choice of "format" over "standard". While I have the impression that you (J. M.) is a bit more knowledgeable, so feel free to overrule me. [[User:Thue|Thue]] ([[User talk:Thue|talk]]) 11:03, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Using "format" is more correct than "standard" in this context, because some formats are not [[standardized]]. In this context, a "standard" ordinarily refers to a [[technical standard]] approved by a [[standards organization]]. Sometimes the word is used more loosely to refer to a [[de facto standard|''de facto'' standard]], but some formats are not ''de facto'' standards either. A ''de facto'' standard, per the article on that topic, should be something "that has achieved a dominant position by public acceptance or market forces", although that term is also sometimes used more loosely (esp. by promoters). —[[User:Mulligatawny|Mulligatawny]] ([[User talk:Mulligatawny|talk]]) 21:23, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
::I added a section on why a video compression format is not an algorithm. [[User:Thue|Thue]] ([[User talk:Thue|talk]]) 12:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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::::Read what I and J. M. wrote again. We are both specifically saying a video compression format is NOT a Video compression algorithm. Format is simply right. [[User:Thue|Thue]] ([[User talk:Thue|talk]]) 18:39, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
::::There is a difference between being a "format" and being a "file format" or a "container format". A format is not necessarily a file format. I agree that "format" is the correct term to use here. It is certainly incorrect to use "algorithm", since different algorithms can use the same data format. That is especially true for encoders, but also true for decoders as well. —[[User:Mulligatawny|Mulligatawny]] ([[User talk:Mulligatawny|talk]]) 21:23, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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