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::* I have some experience editing these articles and so am quite sure that items like the list of cheeses are exactly what our readership wants and creates. If they wanted material along the lines you suggest then that's what we'd have. But I'm not here for [[The Argument Sketch|the full 30 minutes]]. Suffice it to say that your arguments are unconvincing and my !vote stands. [[User:Colonel Warden|Warden]] ([[User talk:Colonel Warden|talk]]) 21:44, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:::*That's not a very good argument. The general readership has always wanted giant plot summaries, unsourced trivia, original research, and all sorts of stuff in fiction related articles. If they cared otherwise, it would not take dedicated individuals to build good, sourced articles. The majority of these skit articles have barely been truly worked on in the sense of improving them to GA status and beyond. Something like the cheese list would be good for Wikia where anything can be explored, but an entire transcript of a conversation without any real purpose does not fit well with anything here. Even if that article turned out to be GA material, I can say for sure that section would have to be removed for it to be promoted. [[User:TTN|TTN]] ([[User talk:TTN|talk]]) 22:12, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
:::*I agree with Warden. The cheese list is something you can easily skip, but if you want to read it you can. The main reason [[WP:SIZE]] guidelines are set is to improve readability. [[User:Dcarroll9999|Dcarroll9999]] ([[User talk:Dcarroll9999|talk]]) 22:39, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
:::*"What our readership wants" is not what we're developing this work - we're trying to build a free content academic encyclopedia. The Reader Feedback tool shows that many expect us to be better than google and document everything to the smallest detail despite being a tertiary source and really have no clue what our mission actually is. As TTN points out, we can point to external resources that are much better suited for providing the full list in the sketch (which here, may border on copyvio given how much of that sketch is listing out the cheeses), but we just need to summarize the popular sketch and provide links where one can learn more, as such a tertiary source should be doing. --[[User:Masem|M<font size="-3">ASEM</font>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 13:30, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
::::* Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia not an academic work and it is [[WP:NOT|explicit policy]] that "''Texts should be written for everyday readers, not for academics.''" Our readers and editors determine our content, not self-appointed arbiters. The current pages represent years of work by numerous editors. If the readership is not content with this then please provide evidence of this. A couple of nay-sayers are insignificant in the context of the readership for a page like the Spanish Inquisition which gets about 100,000 hits in a year. [[User:Colonel Warden|Warden]] ([[User talk:Colonel Warden|talk]]) 17:35, 12 September 2013 (UTC)