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::I hope I've made my reasons for why I prefer the article's links as they are now clear, and I hope we can arrive at a consensus quickly. [[User:APerson|APerson]] ([[User talk:APerson|talk!]]) 03:30, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
:::{{u|APerson}}, There are presently nine or so redlinks in the APL Programming article. Roughly 60 days or so ago, all of those redlinks pointed to valid internal Wikipedia web pages. Today none of them exist in Wikipedia. If Wikipedia sees fit to delete nine of its web pages for "good reason" as you so assuredly indicate and those internal web pages are utterly gone, what are you expecting, that someone should immediately '''re-create new''' Wikipedia web-pages under those identical Wikipedia monikers, with perhaps the same text as was in them when Wikipedia deleted them? Deleting nine former valid Wikipedia web pages makes internal Wikipedia sources '''more''' reliable? You talk about integrating web pages, yet Wikipedia is apparently dis-integrating web pages. It wasn't just one or two Wikipedia web pages, it was nine. And you've completely glossed over the inconvenience to Wikipedia's readership at having to go to the External Links section instead of simply clicking on an external link. [[User:LongTermWikiUser|LongTermWikiUser]] ([[User talk:LongTermWikiUser|talk]]) 04:19, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
This discussion strikes me as very odd. The argument that {{u|LongTermWikiUser}} seems to be making is that external links are preferable to internal Wikipedia links because they are more stable and reliable. I do not have any idea where that claim comes from or what it's grounded in. Certainly Wikipedia has more control over its internal pages: while Wikipedia articles might get deleted or rearranged, they can also be undeleted and reverted. There is no such guarantee for external links. All in all, there does not seem to be any reason here to believe that the [[APL (programming language)]] article should be an exception to the well-established [[WP:External links]] guideline. External links should remain in their own section whenever possible. [[User:Tim Pierce|—Tim Pierce]] ([[User talk:Tim Pierce|talk]]) 02:32, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
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