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Damiens.rf (talk | contribs) →History: again, the reference (and even the long tedious quotation) falls short in supporting what's claimed in the sentence |
Damiens.rf (talk | contribs) →History: we need something coming from a third-part independent source (and not from themselves) to support the claim that the are "the largest and oldest...." |
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}}</ref> by [[Bruno Souza (programmer)|Bruno Souza]] (JavaMan) and Einar Saukas. It was first registered officially as a technology group in Sucesu-SP (largest and oldest{{fact|date=July 2015}} association of technology groups in Brazil representing 100,000 users<ref>{{cite web
|url = http://www.sucesu.org.br/
|title = SUCESU NACIONAL - Quem Somos
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}}</ref>{{unreliable source|date=July 2015}}<ref>{{cite web
|url = http://www.sucesusp.org.br/portal_novo/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=6
|title = SUCESU-SP INSTITUCIONAL
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}}</ref>{{unreliable source|date=July 2015}}), then later publicly announced in a press conference at October 29, 1999.<ref name="mail">{{cite web
|url = https://www.mail-archive.com/javabr%40cits.br/msg00529.html
|title = Lancamento "SouJava"
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