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:::::Look, I'll make this simple: You claim to have read Murphy's book, including the section discussing this specific record. In light of that, what justification do you have for the 32 foot record? What makes you think Murphy & Henderson's conclusion is wrong? Do you have a specimen you can point to? Some significant documentation? Something other than "A lot of people say it, so it must be true"? I've explained that, due to the prevalence of "big fish" stories about these snakes, we can't just accept every claimed report (otherwise the maximum size would be 150 feet long), so what actual evidence makes you think the 32 foot report is real? [[User:HCA|HCA]] ([[User talk:HCA|talk]]) 16:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
::::::: "Disclaimer: The Animal Diversity Web is an educational resource written largely by and for college students." liar trying to get your way. It;s still reliable or it wouldn't be used here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_snakes) You are once again stating the 'if my source isn't right no source is". I am not addressing anymore questions from you until you start answering mine. Why won't you add more sources? Why won't you remove the 25 foot long snake record? Why ain't you talking about how to improve this article instead of turning it into [[WP:WINNER]]? Get over it your source is still there while mine is not. You need to act your age. I'm starting to wonder if you actually do have a PH.D cause you are acting very unprofessional. How about you we both just let it go and move on. quit with the mudslinging there are other articles to edit.--[[User:Fruitloop11|Fruitloop11]] ([[User talk:Fruitloop11|talk]]) 05:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::::::::I haven't removed the 25-foot link because I perceive it to be part of this discussion (in regards to the reliability of Guinness measurements), and thus doing so prior to reaching a conclusion here on the talk page would be "edit warring". I have made it clear in previous statements that I think it should either be removed or couched in very equivocating language reflecting my concerns, and anticipate such edits being made once this discussion is concluded.
 
::::::::Regarding sources, let me try to describe what I see as the "chain of reasoning" here. 1) Reports of reticulated pythons (and anacondas) over 30 feet but less than 40 feet are repeated in a variety of secondary sources, some of which you located. Although there are many modern sources, all ultimately trace back to two particular reports (one for the anaconda and one for the retic). 2) I have pointed out another source, written by two established authorities in the field, which examine these original reports in detail and categorize them as likely false. 3) You have refused to acknowledge or address the criticisms raised by that book, and insist on the inclusion of your source regardless of its veracity, seemingly based on some sort of notion of "fairness" and "equal time". Not all sources are equal. Do you have something to add beyond this? [[User:HCA|HCA]] ([[User talk:HCA|talk]]) 15:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
::My previous comments notwithstanding, I agree that a discussion of typical and maximum length/size is of keen interest to readers and should be included in the article. I just think we need to strive to provide the most realistic and useful information that we can, add all appropriate caveats, and be careful to avoid tabloid-level reliance on dubious unverifiable reports that stretch the bounds of credulity. —[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 06:33, 1 September 2015 (UTC)