Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Smart File System: Difference between revisions

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I can find no reliable, third-party sources that cover this filesystem in any depth. Fails [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Qwertyus|Q<small>VVERTYVS</small>]] <small>([[User talk:Qwertyus|hm?]])</small> 10:48, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

* '''OpposeKeep''' - This is a widely-used filesystem on [[AmigaOS]], and the default filesystem in [[MorphOS]]. Maybe we can't expect it to be documented by very major computer science books, but nonetheless it has the same standing as the plethora Amiga and non-Amiga filesystems that are documented on this encyclopedia. [[User:LjL|LjL]] ([[User talk:LjL|talk]]) 11:36, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

*:{{Ping|LjL}} Then please help save if by finding sources that satisfy the [[WP:GNG]] criteria. I agree with Qwertyus that notability is not established &mdash; the only sources in the article are [[WP:PSTS|primary sources]] and not [[WP:IS|independent]]. The article has had a {{tl|Refimprove}} tag since July 2009. -- [[user:intgr|intgr]]&nbsp;<small>[[user talk:intgr|[talk]]]</small> 12:41, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

*::I have now [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Smart_File_System&type=revision&diff=683804127&oldid=683767268 cited a couple of books] about some statements in the article. [[User:LjL|LjL]] ([[User talk:LjL|talk]]) 16:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

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*'''Keep''' AfD talks a bunch about notability, but the underlying policy behind all this is [[WP:V|verifiability]]; if there are enough third-party sources to be able to verify an article, that should be considered notability enough (and this is pretty much exactly what [[WP:GNG]] says!), and if there aren't, you'll never be able to write a verifiable article and thus it should be deleted. Seeing the conversation above made me fear that the article couldn't be verified (a one-sentence mention isn't really enough), but although some of the existing citations are dubious, there seems to be enough valid ones around that it's possible to write a verifiable article (perhaps a shorter one than currently, though). --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 06:42, 3 October 2015 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])

* '''Comment'''. I'm seeing a lot of keep votes and very few sources. If there isn't significant coverage in reliable sources, then the article should probably be redirected or merged somewhere. You don't inherit notability from your parent operating system. Otherwise, we'd have an entire encyclopedia full of Linux kernel miscellany. Or, at least, it would be even worse than what we do have. The problem is that the Amiga has been dead for 20 years. I'm not even sure where to start looking for sources, but there may be something useful on Google Books. My searches didn't really turn up much there. This could probably be redirected to [[list of file systems]] if no in-depth sources are found. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 08:36, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

*:Is notability based on how long something has been 'dead'? Even the article about [[ext2]] (the [[Linux]] filesystem) doesn't have this plethora of non-primary sources, while now the article about Amiga's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amiga_Old_File_System&curid=844938&diff=683907260&oldid=665962497 OFS has been tagged as one-source] by the editor who proposed this AfD. The article about the [[MINIX file system]] also has only one third-party source, while funnily enough, the other two sources are [[Andrew Tanenbaum]] and [[Linus Torvalds]]. Am I proposing that all these filesystems be considered for turning into oblivion from Wikipedia? Hell no. They are all pretty relevant, even if lengthy features in magazines or whatnot have not been pinpointed. But if nothing else, I ''will'' try to go for consistency on this encyclopedia if it is decided that only some roughly-equally-as-documented filesystems are not worthy of articles. [[User:LjL|LjL]] ([[User talk:LjL|talk]]) 11:18, 3 October 2015 (UTC)