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{{ping|Evolution and evolvability}} why are you removing lots of necessary detail from this guide? You're making more difficult to follow if anything, these details are very necessary to explain. Please stop from removing details, which in my view are very necessary. Also moving the basic markup to page 4 makes no sense to me. <b style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive;">[[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="color:orange;">--Jules</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|(Mrjulesd)]]</b> 12:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

:Hi, I'll stop editing for the moment whilst we discuss. I've been trying to bring it into line with the level of detail of other "introduction to" pages. A lot of the inforation was repeated on multiple sections, and much of it was superfluous to a new user's understanding of how to actually use of romat a table. In the same way the intro to pages for [[Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/2|references]] or [[Help:Introduction_to_editing_with_Wiki_Markup/2|editing]] don't explain how heading wikimarkup is really a set of HTML formatting. I reckon that that level of detail is better left to the more detailed help pages (e.g. [[[Help:tables]], [[[Wikipedia:Advanced table formatting]], [[Help:HTML_in_wikitext#Tables]]). What are your thoughts on what the intro to table pages should cover? [[User:Evolution_and_evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)]]^{[[User talk:Evolution_and_evolvability|talk]]} 13:00, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

::I think it is best explained if we examine what's happened here:

::[[Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/1|1]]: too short on details for my liking. Why make the intro so short?

::[[Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/2|2]]: it is confusing to show alternate table formatting without some rudimentary explanation of basic markup, which has been moved to page 4.

::[[Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/3|3]]: No changes here really.

::[[Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/4|4]]: this table is too late in the explanation. Also no examples on that page, the user would have to flick between page 2 and 4 to see how these examples are used in practice.

::[[Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/5|5]]: Now I originated the "HTML and tables" section. The basic idea was to fully explain how HTML attributes are inserted into tables. Now you've removed some of the details, which as a new user I found extremely confusing. There is no explanation of inserting HTML attributes on single lines with multiple contents. There is no explanation of adding HTML attributes with contents on new lines. The purpose of this section has been subverted. You're adding other HTML attributes, which I feel is unnecessarily for this section as it complicates things. I deliberately used a single attribute to keep things simple. These should be added to a new section at the very least.

::<b style="font-family:'Segoe Script',cursive;">[[User:Mrjulesd|<span style="color:orange;">--Jules</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mrjulesd|(Mrjulesd)]]</b> 14:10, 6 December 2015 (UTC)