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::::Just point me to an academic source, an academic historic journal or a handbook on Dutch history to prove your case. Furthermore other wikipedias are no prove of the existence, especially if the writer in question wrote the article himself. I'm not saying that you should not write anything, I'm merely pointing you to wikipedia policy that says: [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|cite your sources]]. -- [[User:C mon|C mon]] 20:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::If you call sources as national archives and the archive of the dutch parlement not good a nuff sources what's left then? Some more links than: [http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/kind_tot_burger/html/docenten.html Nationaal Archief] [http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/webviews/ead/ead_component.webview?eadid=NL-HaNA_1.04.02&id=1081242790203.7761 Nationaal Archief on VOC] [http://www.20eeuwennederland.nl/afleveringen/serie%202/verre%20verwanten%20van%20robert%20ten%20brink%20en%20lotte%20en%20gwendolyn%20ter%20kuile/mr.%20jacob%20cats/ Public Education televison (Teleac (omroep)] [http://www.antiqbook.nl/boox/bee/995.shtml antiek books] [http://www.asherbooks.com/2307_v.html antiek books] [http://www.waterlandsarchief.nl/inventarisjisp.htm waterlandsarchief] [http://rulers.org/nethprov.html Rulers.org] , [http://www.inghist.nl/Onderzoek/Projecten/GewestelijkeFinancien Investigaton of finance of the state Holland and Westfriesland] [http://www.eur.nl/eur/eredoctoraten_onderscheidingen_prijzen/onderscheidingen/civilitate Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam], [http://www.deruyter.org/chronologie.html Stichting de Ruyter] [http://www.onderzoekinformatie.nl/nl/oi/nod/onderzoek/OND1234751/ Dutch recearch database (NOD)] list can go and on if you want.. [[User:Dolfy|Dolfy]] 21:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC) ps, thanks for the apologie, it felt indeed a bit like personal attack.
::::::http://dutchrevolt.leidenuniv.nl/nederlands/begrippen/staatsinstellingen/republiek%2009%20holland.htm ? --[[User:MWAK|MWAK]] 17:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
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