|
[[User:Sewak nathupur|Sewak nathupur]] ([[User talk:Sewak nathupur|talk]]) 04:36, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
:{{Not done}} as you have not requested a change, but I suspect you are in the wrong place, as this page is only to discuss improvements to [[Help:Getting started]]. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 11:05, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
== What about semiprotecting this talk-page? ==
At [[WP:RFP]], the following request was made, and declined by me.
"'''Indefinite semi-protection:''' For some reason, and despite notices on this page, new users seem to frequently post to this Talk page which is intended for discussion of improvements to the [[Help:Getting started]] page, not as a place to request help. Please semi-protect indefinitely. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 05:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
:{{RFPP|d}} And the newbies are trying to get started and are looking for help; after all it is in good faith. If they make a mistake and use the wrong page, so what? Graciously revert and point them to the right page, try to be helpful and welcoming. [[User:Lectonar|Lectonar]] ([[User talk:Lectonar|talk]]) 20:27, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
::That's just lovely, and happens to be exactly what I would do, but I am not the only person who deals with these edits (and am not interested in making it my mission here). Other editors simply revert them, leaving the newbie's question unanswered; and/or the question will sit for a period of time because no one is actively watching that Talk page. Protecting this page wouldn't penalize for or prevent anyone from seeking help with their good faith questions; it would simply force them to read the content on the page and post the question in a ___location where it is likely to be answered. Please give this a reconsideration. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 20:38, 6 March 2016 (UTC)"
What do people think: is semiprotection a solution for the problem, is it necessary at all, is a more welcoming attitude perhaps a way forward? [[User:Lectonar|Lectonar]] ([[User talk:Lectonar|talk]]) 21:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
:{{tq|For some reason...}} Background is [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#New_accounts_-_initial_notification|here]], together with the question about how to handle this talk page. When the welcome notification linked to [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia]], the corresponding talk page was eventually redirected to the [[WP:Teahouse|Teahouse]]. No-one there has yet said if they favour such a redirection. If you look at the history of either of the talk pages you see that new editors add a wide variety of things: no doubt we'd mostly agree that a newbie's request for help on editing Wikipedia should receive a helpful answer, wherever posted; but many of the contributions <s>(example below)</s> don't seem to come into this category, and TBH may not be worth spending much effort on[[User:Noyster|: <b style="color:seagreen">Noyster</b>]] [[User talk:Noyster|<span style="color:seagreen"> (talk),</span> ]] 00:06, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
:A redirect does not work in this case because of the way the people are getting here. -- [[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 03:21, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
: '''Support''' indefinite or extended (several weeks? months?) semi-protection. It's just ridiculous what's going on here and how often it happens, and most of the newbies' test posts or ask posts here aren't in any way answerable at all. (It's so easy for them to not even look at what page they're on, smash their keyboard and save and never come back, I'm not going to spend even three minutes to come up with a "useful" response for them.) — [[User:Jeraphine Gryphon|Jeraphine Gryphon]] <sup>([[User talk:Jeraphine Gryphon|talk]])</sup> 07:02, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
: '''Support''' indefinite protection as well, though I don't know if it clashes with any existing policies. I actually feel it may help new users, by instead of clicking "edit" without reading the top messageboxes and getting reverted, they may be more likely to read the messagebox contents and find the help or test pages that they're really looking for. <span class="nowrap">[[User:Evolution and evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution and evolvability|talk]]</sup></span> 10:25, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
: '''Support''' indefinite protection --[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 01:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
| 