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::::::::Can we stop going around in circles? You are the one that claimed that anarcho-capitalism was a part of the anarchist tradition. Ward says that it isn't. Libertarianism is not another word for anarchism. "Libertarian" is another word for "anarchist." There is a difference. It comes from the French ''libértaire'', which does have the same meaning as ''anarchiste''. The equivalent of "libertarianism" in French, however, is ''libéralisme'', which has nothing to do with ''anarchisme''. Ward argues that libertarian is another word for anarchist, but that the term has been appropriated by anarcho-capitalists. When you appropriate something, you make an exclusive claim to it. The anarcho-capitalists appropriated the term "libertarian," so that it could no longer be used to refer to anarchists -- only anarcho-capitalists. Thus your syllogism fails, and it is a fallacy. Ward's use of scare quotes around "libertarian" when he refers to anarcho-capitalists shows how he thinks that this appropriation was unjustified, which is why he is not merely using the first definition of appropriation, but both. --[[User:AaronS|AaronS]] 18:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::You're asking ME if we can stop going around in circles? Look at what you just did. Just above you said "libertarianism is indeed another word for anarchism." Now you say "libertarianism is not another word for anarchism." Now that's going around in circles. Ward says anarcho-capitalism is a "different form of libertarianism" from the 19th century form. Obviousy he is using the term "libertarianism" to refer to the philosophy of the 19th century individualists. So your strange claim that "libertarian" can mean anarchist, but libertarianism cannot mean anarchists is just ridiculous. [[User:DTC|DTC]] 18:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::::DTC, he begins the chapter by saying that the terms are interchangeable. But then he says that "libertarian" has been appropriated by anarcho-capitalists, which he disagrees with. I'm sorry, but that's just how it is. --[[User:AaronS|AaronS]] 18:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 
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