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Patents: Summuary of event in the recent past
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:: Patent law does not apply to a method unless the method is part of a patentable gimmick, but even then, it isn't the method that is patented, but the operation of the gimmick. This whole thing is a very tricky part of the law. Until case law can produce some precedent, all of this will just have to live in the world of conjecture. Ultimately, anything that is patented is publicly disclosed anyway, so it is a Catch-22. --[[User:Gijones|Gijones]] 23:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
:::I think that what you are saying is already reflected to some extent in the text of the article. Patents give a particular type of protection - they were never intended as a way to help people keep things secret. This topic is not all conjecture because there IS some case law on patents in relation to magic. It reflects the limits of patent protection. Goldin used patents to try to prevent anyone else doing the sawing illusion and fought a number of court cases in relation to them. But Goldin ultimately lost his case relating to exposure because he neglected the fact that the patent process requires you to lodge publicly accessible copies of the details of the invention in question.[[User:Circusandmagicfan|Circusandmagicfan]] 20:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)Circusandmagicfan
 
Magic illusion inventor and magician Hessel Bos is the first person who registered a magic trick as a copyright in the United States Copyright Office. First he did this as a pantomime (registration number: PAu003016700: / Date: 2005-10-21 / Title: Ball over and behind). Later he did this as an actual magic trick (registration number: PAu003034696 / Date: 2005-12-29 / Title: M2 presentation).
Hessel Bos registered these magic tricks by describing every movement of the magic tricks via text and photographs and then submitted these documents to the copyright office. They were approved under the Performance Art section and a certificate of registration was granted.
In this way Hessel Bos copyrighted not the submitted material (text and photographs) but the actual magic trick that was a result of the movements described.
In September 2008 Hessel Bos successfully filed a complaint under The Digital Milennium Copyright Act against America Online to remove a video from their website in which Hessel Bos owned great parts of the performance of a magic trick. This resulted in the removal of the specific video by America Online.
 
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== Industry standard and praxis ==