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{{Wikipedia Help Project|importance=High|class=B}}
==Aims==
{{intro to box}}
This Tutorial is designed to cover the current gaps for new editors. There are user-friendly step-by-step tutorials for the markup language (e.g. [[WP:tutorial]] and [[WP:training]]), but the only thing available for VisualEditor is the full [[WP:VE/UG|User Guide]] which is a bit much to digest all at once and covers a mix of basic and advanced features. It uses the {{tlx|intro to}} template that should allow synchronisation between the formatting of tutorials. I plan to add similar introductions to references and tables (maybe templates, page settings and categories etc). [[User:Evolution_and_evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution_and_evolvability|talk]]</sup> 10:50, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
:Thank you do much for this! -[[User:Rdicerb (WMF)|Rdicerb (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Rdicerb (WMF)|talk]]) 22:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
===Referencing===
The referencing version of this tutorial is now up - [[Help:Introduction to referencing (VE)]]. Next priority is probably images. [[User:Evolution_and_evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution_and_evolvability|talk]]</sup> 09:17, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
===Images===
The images page is now done too - [[Help:Introduction to images (VE)]]. The pages are all linked together by [[Help:intro to]] and {{tlx|intro to box}}. [[User:Evolution_and_evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution_and_evolvability|talk]]</sup> 01:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 
== Bad title ==
 
Need to make the title more clear if you want more then 10 hits a day. (VE) means noting to new editors ...plus does not show up in a search should be called [[Help:Introduction to VisualEditor]]. -- [[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 17:20, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
:I see your point that the title isn't going to match people's searches. I suspect that most people come to the initial tutorial-type pages via links from other pages rather than e.g. searching "getting started" or "plain and simple". Consequently the linking work you've done around the help pages has been great! Having said that, there's no harm in having a clearer name. My suggestion would be "Help:Introduction to editing with VisualEditor", and standardising the others to fit:
:* Help:introduction_to_*_(VE) → Help:introduction_to_*_with_VisualEditor
:* Help:introduction_to_*_(WM) → Help:introduction_to_*_with_WikiMarkup
:Keeping the naming consistent like that should help people move back and forth between them more logically. What do you think? [[User:Evolution_and_evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution_and_evolvability|talk]]</sup> 11:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
""I think that would be great-- [[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 16:56, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
:: Done (for this page at least). Will try to update the other pages to the same name format over the next few days. If you could help out with fixing any double-redirects, that'd be really helpful! [[User:Evolution_and_evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution_and_evolvability|talk]]</sup> 10:55, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
==I linked this at de.wp...==
And [[:de:Hilfe:Einführung in den VisualEditor/1]] happened. --[[User:Elitre (WMF)|Elitre (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Elitre (WMF)|talk]]) 08:37, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
 
== Created new page/draft and can't get back in to edit it? ==
 
I would like to edit a section of a page / draft I created the other day. I can pull up the edits I'd made on the page I created but see no place to edit any of it? I can't find the page. Also, since it's my first one...how long will it take to appear on wikipedia? Thanks! [[User:Cavenezia|Cavenezia]] ([[User talk:Cavenezia|talk]]) 04:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
:{{re| Cavenezia}} I believe you're talking about this page: [[Draft:S.K._Bain,_Investigative_Researcher_and_Author]]. I've added a button to the top that will allow you to submit it for review. The process can take anywhere from 1-60 days depending on the backlog of other submitted drafts, so I'm afaid you may have to be patient. My advice is to get it to as high a standard as possible before submission. In particulr, it's important to have numerous independent 'third party' supporting references. Good luck. <span class="nowrap">[[User:Evolution and evolvability|T.Shafee(Evo&#65120;Evo)]]<sup>[[User talk:Evolution and evolvability|talk]]</sup></span> 04:27, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 
== The instructions to use the Visual Editor are the same as the instructions to use the old editor==
The visual editor came up when I first went to visit a page, but I can't get it back. I used to program (what we called it then) in high school, and have only recently done a little auto it. I am a physician. I heard on the radio that some people in Wikipedia did not want the Visual Editor to become popular, in spite of decreasing contributor numbers. Well, I can see where I'm not wanted. No more edits, no more contributions from me. I will continue enjoy consuming the work of others though... Have a nice life all of you. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Andrew Nielsen|Andrew Nielsen]] ([[User talk:Andrew Nielsen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Andrew Nielsen|contribs]]) 06:59, 16 July 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->