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I'll let this comment sit for a week or so before taking action. [[User:Battling McGook|Battling McGook]] ([[User talk:Battling McGook|talk]]) 15:50, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
==Adding line about SAP's cloud offering ==
Since Oracle is mentioned in this article, would it be possible to also mention that [[SAP SE]] has a cloud-based solution in the form of [[SAP HANA]]? I think this would balance the article a bit more. In addition, SAP has formed a partnership with IBM to create a "hybrid cloud" for customers, as well as with Microsoft. Thank you for your consideration. [[User:Harper70|Harper70]] ([[User talk:Harper70|talk]]) 18:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)Harper70
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:We should probably remove Oracle as well. Instead we could have a statement that most cloud computing platforms use open-source free software due to exorbitant charges for licensing and maintenance. When I searched for SAP cloud that was the first reference I came up with. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 21:49, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
::I think that [[Cloud computing]] should stick to the historically significant information. [[SAP HANA]] does not primarily seem to be a cloud offering, but [[HANA Enterprise Cloud]] seems to be the product. I would suggest that the SAP HANA article is boosted in content first. An then possibly a link from [[Software as a service]]. (Perhaps I am a bit harsh on the word "exorbitant", but the point is that software charges do not scale nicely in the cloud. Having to license each instantiation or run a license server is extra difficulty). [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 21:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Graeme!! That's an excellent suggestion. I'm now in the process of compiling information and citations for the [[SAP HANA]] article, and once that's been done, we can continue the conversation. Many thanks! [[User:Harper70|Harper70]] ([[User talk:Harper70|talk]]) 15:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)Harper70
== Scientific Description of a Cloud ==
The sentence "The word "cloud" is commonly used in science to describe a large agglomeration of objects that visually appear from a distance as a cloud and describes any set of things whose details are not further inspected in a given context." basically just says "The word "cloud" is commonly used in science to describe an object that looks like a cloud." I've got no idea what the second part means. "[W]hose details are not further inspected in a given context." What? What context? I wish I could see the source for it (the [14] one) to see what, exactly, is being sourced there because, man, I gotta say that is one challenging sentence. And by challenging I mean trash. [[Special:Contributions/2602:306:38C1:64D0:11D4:68ED:C92B:5FBD|2602:306:38C1:64D0:11D4:68ED:C92B:5FBD]] ([[User talk:2602:306:38C1:64D0:11D4:68ED:C92B:5FBD|talk]]) 06:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
: "Cloud" isn't perhaps the most descriptive term, but it is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] and so we're stuck with it. It's better than "Amazon Web Services" at least, where "web services" already have a very clear definition as a remote API, quite distinct from most of what they provide.
: As to "[W]hose details are not further inspected in a given context.", that refers to the cloud practice of buying "a yard of computing power" without any knowledge of ''how'' this is to be provided. Is the size of computing effort requested to be supplied by a thin virtualised slice of a very big server? Or a dedicated small blade server? You can have good details of what you need to know (where it appears in IP space, how much size or power it offers, QoS reliability metrics) but you don't get to see more than this. Physically where it is is hidden. The hardware architecture is hidden. For [[Amazon Glacier]], no-one (outside AWS) even knows what it's built out of. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 10:25, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
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