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In response to criticism, the [[WHATWG]] has cited concerns over the Ogg formats still being within patent lifetime and thus vulnerable to unknown patents.<ref>{{cite mailing list |url= http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-December/013154.html |title=Re: [whatwg] Removal of Ogg is *preposterous* |date=11 December 2007 |accessdate=2008-02-25 |mailinglist=whatwg mailing list |last=Hickson |first=Ian}}</ref>
Such [[submarine patent]]s may also exist for formats like [[MP3]]. Also, the [[H.264/MPEG-4 AVC|AVC]] patent licensing policy is subject to change in a not-yet-clear manner.<ref>{{cite news |last=Paul |first=Ryan |title=Decoding the HTML 5 video codec debate |work=Infinite Loop / The Apple Ecosystem |date=2009-07-05 |url=
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