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:::{{u|Renata3}}, assuming that was what you needed, could you mark this with a <nowiki>{{tl|resolved}}</nowiki> tag? --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 04:12, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

::::Yes, done, sorry. [[User:Renata3|Renata]] ([[User talk:Renata3|talk]]) 04:15, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

== ''Film World'' ==

[https://books.google.co.in/books?id=ZnhTAAAAYAAJ&dq=theriyadha+kattil+forest&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=forest ''Film World'' - Volume 8 - Page 46]

I would like the full version of the above cited source to improve ''[[Dhikku Theriyadha Kaattil]]''. Page 47 may also be added if the text continues there. Ping me if there is any progress, since I won't be adding this page to my watchlist --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<font color = "black" ><b>Kailash29792</b></font>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<font color = "black" >(talk)</font>]] </span> 06:37, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

:{{doing}} (or at least attempting) ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small>₁₃</small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 23:04, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

::Unsuccessful, anyone else is welcome to fill this. ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small>₁₃</small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 20:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

:::Sorry for the late reply, I was touring. In the above link, it says the copy was originally from "the [[University of Virginia]]". Since I am unwilling to go so far, is it accessible for anyone here? --<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<font color = "black" ><b>Kailash29792</b></font>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<font color = "black" >(talk)</font>]] </span> 11:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

== TV listing: A look-up from any U.S. or UK newspaper archive ==

{{tl|Resolved}}

{{hat|Information about 1967 production of ''[[A Month in the Country (play)|A Month in the Country]]'' starring Susannah York and Ian McShane}}

I have it on good authority that Turgenev's ''[[A Month in the Country (play)|A Month in the Country]]'' aired on TV in the UK in 1967, starring Susannah York, Ian McShane, and Michael Wells. If someone has a subscription to the archives of any UK newspaper (that has TV listings) for that time period, could you search and find the exact air date (and channel) for me? (For some reason both IMDB and BFI have the first air date as 1978.)

I think the best way to find it in a digital newspaper archive is to simply search under ''"month in the country"'' from 1965–1970. If that doesn't yield anything, search under ''turgenev'', or ''"Susannah York"'', or another of the three leads.

*'''Note''': The BBC aired this as a teleplay in 1966 in the series "Theatre 625", but that was a different production/cast.

If you could send me a copy of your finding, that would be helpful as well, as I may try to update IMDB with the correct info, and they will require proof. My email address is ''[e-mail]''

Article being improved: ''[[A Month in the Country (play)|A Month in the Country]]''.

*'''UPDATE''': [[Linda Thorson]], who was also in the cast, filmed it before she was in ''[[The Avengers (TV series)|The Avengers]]'', which she joined in early 1968. In a newspaper interview published February 1968 [https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/45903531/] she says she filmed ''A Month in the Country'' "this summer" (that would be summer of 1967) "for U.S. television", so maybe it aired in the U.S. rather than the UK the first time around. So it looks like I need someone to check '''U.S.''' TV listings for 1967.

--[[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 05:40, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

:[[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]], I checked a couple of databases, primarily U.S. but with some British coverage, and "month in the country" during 1965 - 1970 did not produce anything relevant other than the article quoting Linda Thorson that you already found. [[User:John M Baker|John M Baker]] ([[User talk:John M Baker|talk]]) 14:23, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

::Other than the interview {{U|Softlavender}} found in ''The Ottawa Journal'', the oldest result returned by searches of newspaperarchive.com, NewsBank, and ProQuest is the review: {{cite newspaper |last=Conlogue |first=Ray |date=8 July 1978 |title=Tragedy-farce jars slightly on television |newspaper=The Globe and Mail |___location=Toronto |page=33}} It fits in with IMDb's Canada release date of 8 July 1978.

::To further muddy the waters, database Film Index International's details for the film (which come from BFI) gives a year and publication date of 1985, and a "first transmission date" of June 26, 1987. It lists as "Supplemental data" an article in ''Variety'', 17 July 1985, p. 44, {{issn|0042-2738}}, which might be worth tracking down. I don't have ready access to the full text of that. --[[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce|talk]]) 17:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

:::The [[Birmingham Daily Post]] for Monday 27 February 1967, p16, has the play listed as being on [[BBC2]] that night at 9:05 pm as part of Theatre 625 but it doesn't give any details about the cast. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 18:19, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

::::Add, there's a cast list for this version in the Radio Time,s [http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbctwo/england/1967-02-27 here], and this isn't York and Wells but Hywel Bennett and Michele Dotrice. I can find a reference to four performances of the play starring Susannah York and Michael Wells being staged in the grounds of their home in June 1967 (The Stage 8 June 1967 p13) and this does also have Linda Thorson in it - billed as Linda Berethorson - but no reference to it being filmed. [[User:Nthep|Nthep]] ([[User talk:Nthep|talk]]) 18:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

:::::{{U|Nthep}}, yes, please see the '''Note''' in my OP; that was a different production and different cast, not the one I'm looking for. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 02:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

*Note to everyone: Thanks for your efforts. I'm specifically looking for '''daily TV listings''' (in either newspapers or publications like ''TV Guide'' or ''Radio Times''), rather than encyclopedias of film database registries. That said, I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that, although the item was clearly filmed in 1967 (we have immediate firsthand evidence from a cast member, in two interviews, that supports that), it was not aired until 1977, in Singapore (as IMDB release dates state: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451128/releaseinfo]; also a lot of the Google results for the item are from Singapore). I think the reason was probably as follows: Although produced in the UK (I think), it was filmed in [[NTSC]] format, '''for U.S. television''', to be broadcast there. For whatever reason though the airing was scrapped -- most likely because for the 1960s it was a dull, obscure, static period piece (even Turgenev never intended for it to be staged, according to what I have read), not something that would interest U.S. audiences of the late 1960s. Also, while Susannah York was a known quantity in the UK (at least on a minor level), in the U.S she wasn't really, and the rest of the cast (even McShane) were unknowns. Anyway, the item aired in Canada in 1978, over a decade after filming. And it somehow took until 1983 for it to air in the U.S., and then a PAL version of it aired in the UK in 1985: [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451128/releaseinfo]. I've surmised my theory from snippet views of a couple of books on GoogleBooks, but I can't see the full pages that talk about it. '''Bottom Line''': If someone can find and search daily TV listings (of the late 1960s), particularly for the U.S., that would be great. If not, I'll accept the theory I just related. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 02:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

::[[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]], the searches did include daily TV listings from that period, so I think we can safely conclude that "A Month in the Country" was not aired in the U.S. in the 1965 - 1970 period under that title. Your theory sounds plausible, although it's probably [[WP:SYN]]. [[User:John M Baker|John M Baker]] ([[User talk:John M Baker|talk]]) 15:54, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

:::Thanks very much for the clarification, [[User:John M Baker|John M Baker]]. {{noping|Nthep}} has left some fascinating further on my talkpage [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Softlavender&oldid=805034380#A_Month_in_the_Country], which more or less substantiates everything I've read and surmised about it. Thanks again all. <s>Let's leave this open a day or two more (just so people can view the endgame), and then mark it resolved.</s> [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 23:14, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

;<s>UPDATE: Need U.S. daily TV listings for July 8, 1978</s>

{{U|Nthep}} supplied me with a TV listing page from the ''[[Lansing State Journal]]'' which showed that ''A Month in the Country'' starring Susannah York aired on [[WWTV]], the local CBS affiliate, on July 8. 1978 -- the same date it aired in Canada. If someone could find at least one other U.S. state that aired the broadcast, I might be able to at least update the IMDB listing of its U.S. premiere. (Otherwise, the broadcast may simply have been some sort of sharing Michigan's neighbor Canada.) Thanks, [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 01:49, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

:How positive are you of your station identification? In 1978, WWTV was a CBS affiliate, broadcasting from Cadillac, MI on channel 9, but there was another channel 9 closer to Lansing: [[CBET]], a Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) station broadcasting from Windsor, Ontario (a.k.a. "South Detroit"). The ''Detroit Free Press'', ''Sandusky Register'', and ''Norwalk Reflector'' all list the program at 9:30 on channel 9, and the two Ohio papers are explicit that it is the Canadian channel. A note in article [[WWTV]] says its current signal can be picked up as far south as Lansing ''only when CBET is off the air''. That tidbit is unsourced, but it sounds right and likely was true in 1978 too. TV listings in the ''Lansing State Journal'' are much more likely to be for CBET than WWTV. --[[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce|talk]]) 04:57, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

::Wow, good catch, [[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]]! I fucked up; evidently there are ''two'' Channel 9s in the TV listing page Nthep sent me; one 9 is inside the little TV-screen icon that many TV Guide listings have, and one 9 is in parentheses. I had looked at the former, but the airing of ''A Month in the Country'' at 9:30 PM was on the latter (down further in the station identification list), [[CBET]], just as you mentioned. Wow, you should get the fact-checking award of the week. (And I thought I was a diligent fact-checker!) Also, I had no idea about the incestuous relationship between Canadian and American broadcasters in that area. So, {{U|Nthep}} was absolutely correct when he wrote on my talkpage that "{{xt|The earliest screening I can find is July 1978 on CBC Channel 9 in July 1978 where it was seen in both Canada and the northern US.}}" Thanks very much! That part of the mystery is solved at least. [[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]] ([[User talk:Softlavender|talk]]) 05:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

{{hab}}

:[[User:Softlavender|Softlavender]], I assume from your hatting that this request is now resolved, and I've so marked it so it can be archived. [[User:John M Baker|John M Baker]] ([[User talk:John M Baker|talk]]) 19:01, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

== Hoffman & Moser (1967) Polar construction equipment ==

Hoffman, C.R.; Moser, E.H.; (1967). Polar construction equipment-- drilling tests in ice and ice-rock conglomerate. US Naval Civil Engineering Laboratory, Technical Note N-937. Citation details available [http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/AD0824445 here], but there doesn't appear to be an online copy available there.

For [[History of scientific ice drilling]]. Thanks. -- [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] ([[User_talk:Mike Christie|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie|contribs]] - [[User:Mike Christie/Reference library|library]]) 11:30, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

:{{u|Mike Christie}}, have you tried [http://www.dtic.mil//dtic/contactus/askaLibrarian.html asking the DTIC]? Do you know if they take ILL requests? --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 23:57, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

::Good idea -- I've emailed them. Looks like I may need to create an account, but I'll see. [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] ([[User_talk:Mike Christie|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie|contribs]] - [[User:Mike Christie/Reference library|library]]) 02:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

:::There's an online way to search for technical reports, [https://ntrl.ntis.gov/NTRL/ here] -- I found this paper there, but am posting this note in case anyone else is interested in the resources. [[User:Mike Christie|Mike Christie]] ([[User_talk:Mike Christie|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Mike_Christie|contribs]] - [[User:Mike Christie/Reference library|library]]) 14:02, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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== Does Who's Who claim Mohammad Asghar is an only child? ==

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[http://www.ukwhoswho.com/public/home.html?url=%2Fapp%3Fservice%3Dexternalpagemethod%26page%3DArticleDisplay%26method%3Dview%26sp%3DS%2Foupww%2Fwhoswho%2FU246474&failReason=Error+reason%3A+err_userpass_none%2Berr_ip_badcred%2Berr_athens_none%2Berr_shib_none%2Berr_referrer_none%2Berr_libcard_none WHO’S WHO]

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The article is [[Mohammad Asghar]]. The broad issue is a complicated and contentious edit request [[Talk:Mohammad_Asghar#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_15_August_2016|here]]. The narrow issue is whether "he was the only child" is correct. There is no citation at the end of that sentence, but the next sentence makes a reference to Who's Who which requires subscription. If someone has access to that document could they tell me whether or not it claims he is an only child? I have solid, but not citable evidence that this is incorrect. If the source doesn't make the claim, it's easy enough to remove but if the source does make the claim I'll have to think through what to do next. --[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 15:49, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

:{{reply|Sphilbrick}} Not immediately helpful, Im afraid, but I don't think WW is a [[WP:RS]]. It's the dead-tree equivalent of [[WP:UGC]]: They ask you about yourself, and then publish it. &mdash; [[User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<span style="color:maroon">'''fortuna'''</span>]][[User talk:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<span style="color:navy">'''''velut luna'''''</span>]] 15:52, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

::Actually, that is helpful. I know from personal experience that there are some Who's Who knockoffs that are scammy but I thought this one was more legit. If they are a reliable source than I don't have to worry about a conflict — I can remove the claim that isn't supported by reliable source. --[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 16:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

:::Leaving aside the reliability issue, Who's Who does not mention whether or not Asghar has any siblings. Here's his entry:

::::ASGHAR, Mohammad

::::Born Peshawar, 30 Sept. 1945; ''s'' of M. Aslam Khan and Zubaida Aslam; ''m'' 1983, Firdaus; one d

::::Member (C) South Wales East, National Assembly for Wales, since 2009 (Plaid Cymru, 2007–09)

::::EDUCATION

::::Peshawar Univ. (BA 1968)

::::CAREER

::::Certified Public Accountant. Asst to Principal, R. J. Minty, chartered accountants, 1972–83; Principal, MA Associates, accountants, 1983–. Shadow Minister for Equalities and Sport, Nat. Assembly for Wales, 2011. Member: Assoc. of Accounting Technicians, 1975–; Inst. of Financial Accountants, 2001–

::::RECREATIONS

::::Holder of Private Pilot’s Licence, keen sportsman, cricket, athletics, badminton

::::ADDRESS

::::National Assembly for Wales, Cardiff Bay, Cardiff, CF99 1NA

::::0300 200 7239

::::[e-mail]

:::--[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 18:12, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

::::: Who's Whos are famously self-reported. I would only use it as a [[WP:SPSAS|self-published source about self]] (not for outstanding claims), and even then, many of their aspects are not worth repeating if not duplicated in [[Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable sources|reliable, secondary source]] coverage <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em Avenir;color:#B048B5'>czar</span>]]</span> 23:57, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

::::::Thank-you for the summary. That helps.--[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 00:25, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

:::::::No problem {{u|Sphilbrick}}. It's actually his full WW entry, not just a summary. If that fulfills your request, could you add the <nowiki>{{tl|resolved}}</nowiki> template? --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 10:15, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

{{tl|resolved}}--[[User:Sphilbrick|<span style="color:#000E2F;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span>]][[User talk:Sphilbrick|<span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span>]] 13:11, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

== Three pages from "Cadres et dirigeants au Zaïre, qui sont-ils?: dictionnaire biographique" ==

Pages 65-67 from this 1986 book, [https://books.google.com/books?id=9UoLAQAAIAAJ&focus= Cadres et dirigeants au Zaïre, qui sont-ils?: dictionnaire biographique] {{OCLC|462124213}} would help me in improving the [[Jean Bolikango]] article.

--[[User:Indy beetle|Indy beetle]] ([[User talk:Indy beetle|talk]]) 02:59, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

:{{u|Indy beetle}}, got it. [[Special:EmailUser|email me]] and I'll send it over. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 18:28, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

::{{u|Indy beetle}}, just sent the email. Assuming that's what you need, please mark this template with a <nowiki>{{tl|resolved}}</nowiki> tag. Thanks, --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 19:32, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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== ''The Sunday Times'', 1950 ==

*''The Sunday Times'', 4 June 1950

*[[Elizabeth David]]

I'm looking for an article - a book review - by Elizabeth Nichols in ''The Sunday Times'', 4 June 1950. It is a review of ''A Book of Mediterranean Food'' by Elizabeth David. Many thanks - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 14:10, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

:{{u|SchroCat}}, got it. It's actually by Elixabeth Nichol'''a'''s. [[Special:EmailUser|Send me an email]] and I'll pass it on. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 18:36, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

::Thanks Usernameunique - mail sent. - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 18:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

::{{u|SchroCat}}, just responded. Assuming that's what you need, please mark this template with a <nowiki>{{tl|resolved}}</nowiki> tag. Thanks, --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 19:33, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

:::That's great {{u|Usernameunique}} - thanks very much indeed. - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 19:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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