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::Just for clarity - this would be a nomination as G11, yes? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 17:07, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

:::Yes, a G11 nomination. [[User:David.moreno72|<span style="font-family:verdana;color:#ffff00;background:#0040ff">David.<span style="background: #0033cc">moreno<span style="background:#002080">72</span></span></span>]] 01:34, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

== Talk page headers ==

Would it be possible for the script to automatically add the <nowiki>{{talk header}}</nowiki> when a draft is accepted?[[User:SeraphWiki|SeraphWiki]] ([[User talk:SeraphWiki|talk]]) 08:55, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

== Teahouse invitation wording ==

The Teahouse invitation that the tool adds begins "Hello! User, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing." That looks odd – and a bit sarcastic – when it comes from the same person who declined the article. Could we change that to something like "Hello User! I know that having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing."? [[User:Mortee|Mortee]] ([[User talk:Mortee|talk]]) 02:47, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

:Definitely better.. [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|pingó mió]]) 05:22, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

::{{done}}. I removed the "I know that" part, since it also sounds a bit condescending. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:08, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

:::Very good point. Thank you for making the change. [[User:Mortee|Mortee]] ([[User talk:Mortee|talk]]) 16:58, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

== Checkbox to clear not appearing ==

Reporting [[Draft:Katharine von Bora]] as a copyvio ([https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&oldid=821459748&action=compare&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.geni.com%2Fpeople%2FKatharina-von-Bora%2F6000000002561935125 Earwig report]), I see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Reviewing_instructions#Step_1:_Quick-fail_criteria the instructions] say "ensure you select the checkbox to blank the submission using {{tl|afc cleared}}", but I don't see that as a checkbox (Chrome, v. 63.0.3239.84, Windows 7). I did check the CSD checkbox that appeared. I've since deleted the contents of the page and added that template manually. Would the checkbox have done anything else that I should do manually?

The instructions for negative unsourced BLPs mentions a similar checkbox that I also don't see if I try selecting that option. [[User:Mortee|Mortee]] ([[User talk:Mortee|talk]]) 00:17, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

:Actually in this case I think Earwig may be confused; it strips off the "Draft:" and compares the existing Wikipedia page, which I hadn't yet seen, to Geni.com, which is presumably mirroring us. I'll sort out the mess I made, but I'd still like to understand what I should do about the hidden checkboxes. [[User:Mortee|Mortee]] ([[User talk:Mortee|talk]]) 00:23, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

:: Good grief. No, just my pure idiocy. The existing article is [[Katharina von Bora]], not [[Katharine von Bora]], and they're about different things. Backing away from the whole topic before I break anything else. [[User:Mortee|Mortee]] ([[User talk:Mortee|talk]]) 00:30, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

:::I'm... glad you sorted that out? To answer your original question, the reason why the check box does not appear for copyvios any more is by my request - if you blank a copyvio draft then I (or any other admins addressing the G12 issue) have to go and find the older version of the page to run the copyvios report and I got tired of doing that. I'll update the instructions accordingly. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 13:21, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

== Blank Submission ==

One of the reasons that a reviewer can check for a decline is that the submission is blank. We need that. However, the text that is provided then isn't really appropriate to the cases where we get blank submissions. The text says that we do not accept blank submissions, and that the user should go to [[WP:RA|Requested Articles]]. That seems to be oriented to a case where the editor has provided a title, but nothing else, such as [[James Z. Smith]]. I don't see that at AFC (a title and a blank page). What I do sometimes see is a completely blank page, in the sandbox, with no title, but that has been submitted. In this case, I don't think that the editor is requesting an article. I think that the editor is trying to do something, and we don't know what the editor is trying to do, or may just be playing. I have said that the submission has no content, and that if they are trying to create a draft, they may want to ask for help at [[WP:THQ|the Teahouse]]. However, I don't see the situation where a blank submission has a title, and so can be viewed as an article request. Thoughts? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 16:27, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

:For reference, the text of the |blank| decline is:

:{{talk quote|We're sorry, but we cannot accept blank submissions. Please consider submitting to [[Wikipedia:Requested articles]] instead. If in fact you did include text within the article, but it isn't showing, please make sure that any extra text above your entry is removed, as it may be causing it to hide and not be shown to the reviewer. }}

:I agree that the language could be changed. Will have a think. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 16:33, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

==WikiProject Military History is not an available option on AFCH?==

Longstanding issue that I'm finally bringing up: it appears that WPMILHIST is not an automatic option in the WikiProject field of AFCH. Tried to find it under a number of renderings and it's just not there. MILHIST is a huge and very active project, so tagging articles properly with it is actually really productive and practically guarantees an assessment visit by a project member. Am I missing something, or is this an oversight that can be corrected? Thanks! [[User:MatthewVanitas|MatthewVanitas]] ([[User talk:MatthewVanitas|talk]]) 01:16, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

:Yeah, neither is Pop Culture (and a few others that I discovered yesterday). {{u|Enterprisey}} will know more - I thought it had something to do with how the projects were searched/filed, but I'm not really sure. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 01:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

::I have had the same complaint about military history. Can something be done? [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 02:29, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

:::A short-term fix for this is an admin going to [[User:Theo's Little Bot/afchwikiproject.js]] and adding the line <tt>"Military History": "Wikiproject Military history",</tt> (don't forget the comma on the end!) in the alphabetically appropriate ___location. [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Enterprisey|talk!]]) 03:36, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

::::{{done}}. Also added pop culture while I was at it. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 04:33, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

:::::{{ping|Primefac}} thanks! [[User:MatthewVanitas|MatthewVanitas]] ([[User talk:MatthewVanitas|talk]]) 03:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

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{{ping|Primefac}} not to be ungrateful, but I'm still not seeing MILHIST pop up in the WikiProjects field when I type in "military". Am I doing something wrong, or has it not processed yet? [[User:MatthewVanitas|MatthewVanitas]] ([[User talk:MatthewVanitas|talk]]) 23:12, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

:{{bcc|Enterprisey}}No idea; I was just following directions. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 01:08, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

::Weird. Debugging now. [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Enterprisey|talk!]]) 20:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

:::Should be fixed. [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Enterprisey|talk!]]) 20:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

::::And I should probably document what I did, for posterity. The script caches the list of WikiProjects very aggressively, only updating it when the AFCH version is bumped. To do this, we generate a key (variable name: <tt>lsKey</tt>, near the top of <tt>showAcceptOptions</tt> in <tt>src/modules/submissions.js</tt>) that is tied to the local cache. Whenever you change the list and want to trigger an update to everyone's caches, change the number on the end. This is a bit of a hack, and I'll see if I can get a "last time of modification"-based approach going eventually. [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Enterprisey|talk!]]) 21:10, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

:::::Thanks all! Working fine now. [[User:MatthewVanitas|MatthewVanitas]] ([[User talk:MatthewVanitas|talk]]) 04:46, 14 February 2018 (UTC)