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::Thanks, {{U|Bruce1ee}} [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 19:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}

== Help with checking Norwegian book reference ==

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Hi, I'm trying to check a Norwegian book related to the Wikipedia entry about JWs and child sex abuse. The book referenced is:

Ringnes, Hege Kristin (2009). "Individet i gruppen: en psykologisk tilnærming til det å være et Jehovas vitne". In Ringnes, Hege Kristin; Sødal, Helje Kringlebotn. Jehovas vitner — en flerfaglig studie (in Norwegian). Oslo: Universitetsforlaget. p. 101. ISBN 978-82-15-01453-1.

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[[Jehovah's Witnesses' handling of child sex abuse]]

See footnote 2 and sentence preceding. "An independent 2009 study in Norway concluded that the rate of sexual abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses was similar to that in general society."

I can't speak Norwegian, and want to find out more information about this study - how was it conducted? How many people were sampled? Was it confined to Norway? Is the reference even legitimate?

--[[User:TruthSeekerJC|TruthSeekerJC]] ([[User talk:TruthSeekerJC|talk]]) 03:02, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

:TruthSeekerJC has already been informed at the [[WP:TEAHOUSE|teahouse]] ([[Wikipedia:Teahouse#Help editing - identifying unreliable sources]]) that the source in question&mdash;peer reviewed research published by a reputable academic publisher&mdash;is indeed legitimate. However, if other editors have more specific information about what the source says with respect to TruthSeekerJC's other questions, that would not be unwelcome.--[[User:Jeffro77|<span style='color:#365F91'>'''Jeffro'''</span><span style='color:#FFC000'>''77''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jeffro77|talk]]) 12:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

:[[User:TruthSeekerJC|TruthSeekerJC]], the people here who are able to provide you with the article will overwhelmingly not be able to answer your questions about the content simply because they do not speak Norwegian. Would you be interested in a copy of the article? —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 23:32, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

{{reply to|Pajz}} If I could have a digital photocopy / scan of the page in question - page 101 - that would help. From there I should be able to track down someone that knows Norwegian that can translate it. It's not just a question of the book source being reliable - it's a question of what the book actually says and if it actually says what has been claimed. [[User:TruthSeekerJC|TruthSeekerJC]] ([[User talk:TruthSeekerJC|talk]]) 01:36, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

:{{doing}} —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 07:11, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

:{{sent}} to [[User:TruthSeekerJC|TruthSeekerJC]], —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 19:43, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

::{{reply to|Pajz}}, TruthSeekerJC has provided a translation in broken English at the relevant article's Talk page. The editor's comments there suggest a misinterpretation of the translation and of the original source. It would help if you could send me a copy of the original, or better still, post a copy somewhere available to everyone.--[[User:Jeffro77|<span style='color:#365F91'>'''Jeffro'''</span><span style='color:#FFC000'>''77''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jeffro77|talk]]) 05:30, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

:::I can send ''you'' a copy. I ''cannot'' post it "somewhere available to everyone", for obvious (copyright) reasons. —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 05:36, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

::::The single paragraph in question would fit within fair use, but that should suffice. Received, thanks. {{tl|resolved}}--[[User:Jeffro77|<span style='color:#365F91'>'''Jeffro'''</span><span style='color:#FFC000'>''77''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jeffro77|talk]]) 05:39, 25 April 2018 (UTC)