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== ''Drummin' Men: The Heartbeat of Jazz, The Bebop Years'': section on Kenny Clarke ==

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I would like to get the text of the section about [[Kenny Clarke]] from 'Drummin' Men: The Heartbeat of Jazz: The Bebop Years'', so I can straighten some things out in my attempt to rewrite his article. The Google Books result (which is listed with the wrong title) that led me to this book was [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=NijRCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA72&lpg=PA72&dq=kenny+clarke%2Bdunsmore&source=bl&ots=35VdSTIXV8&sig=A5KDzJ1ojaN-aX2m2ggteL4feJ0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtrtGnqN3bAhUGO7wKHaF1AT8Q6AEIczAT#v=onepage&q=kenny%20clarke%2Bdunsmore&f=false this one], which I can't read with my [[screen reader]]. I don't know exactly which page range I'd need, but any pages around there talking about Clarke would be good. I don't need the entire chapter as it seems to discuss the lives of several people. Thanks! '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 13:32, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Graham87}} Hello, please send me a wikimail, and I will attach with reply. --[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 13:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

::{{replyto|Gazal world}} Done. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

:::{{sent}} --[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 14:42, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

::::{{replyto|Gazal world}} Not the right edition though, per my email. (I know you said you'd look into this; I'm just noting the status of this request onwiki too). '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 17:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

:::::Yes, I am working on it. Meanwhile, anyone who has an access to the Oxford University Press are free to fulfill this request. --[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 18:45, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::I could scan it from the print edition and then OCR it, so that would be a way to get this done, but if I'm understanding you correctly you're working on perhaps getting hold of an "original" PDF version - which, I suppose, would be the best option to use with a screenreader. So I guess it makes sense for me to wait a few days and see if anyone can come up with a digital version. I've meanwhile placed a hold on the volume. —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 03:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

:::::::[[user:Graham87|Graham87]], it appears that you can borrow the book for free through the Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/drumminmenheartb00kora_1. There is also an "ENCRYPTED DAISY" download option for print-disabled users, which might me of interest to you. Would that be an option? Best, —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 03:16, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::::In my opinion, Internet Archives has two old edition (1990, 2002), and Graham wants 2004 edition. The 2004 edition is available on Oxford, but my subscription dosen't cover it. So, I have requested to another editor to get a copy.--[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 03:49, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]], the Google Book link in the request points to the 2002 print edition (see page iv) - ISBN 0-19-514812-6 -, therefore I assume that is what is being requested. —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 04:00, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::I also sent him the same edition, which has an entry about Kenny Clarke. But as Graham told me in E-mail, he needs 2004 edition.--[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 04:11, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::::I don't think such an edition exists. It's very common that you have a print edition and then there is all sorts of electronic versions (or identical reprints) that follow in the years after the print publication (which is likely why Google's metadata says it's from 2004, but when you look at the actual images you see you're really looking at the 2002 print edition). In addition, the British Library catalogue only lists a 2002 edition. So as I see it there is really not much point in looking for a separate 2004 edition if you already have the 2002 one. Best, —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 04:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::{{replyto|Pajz|Gazal}} The Google Books snippet I get reads: "Clarke found a father figure, Mr. Moore, a teacher of music who played all the instruments. ... Clarke soon found himself in a foster home with the Dunsmore family, where he remained until he ... Kenny Clarke with tenor saxophonist Zoot Sims." Searching various parts of that text reveals other snippets that would be useful for straightening things out. None of this text is in my addition. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 05:16, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::Repinging [[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]]. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 05:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::I found [http://www.worldcat.org/title/drummin-men-the-heartbeat-of-jazz-the-bebop-years/oclc/965474742&referer=brief_results this WorldCat entry] re a 2004 edition. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 05:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::::::[[User:Graham87|Graham87]], yes, an e-book version. I stand by what I said; you often have myriads of ebook "editions", but it's really all the same document (this one hosted by EBSCO). If neither of the relevant national libraries (in this case, Library of Congress and British Library) have a later version than the 2002 one in their catalog, odds are it just doesn't exist - either because the book was reprinted in 2004 without any modifications (but then it would be irrelevant which copy you use for the article), or because the later versions are merely ebook reproductions by different providers. Best, —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 06:00, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

::::::::::::::{{replyto|Pajz|Gazal world}} Sorry, I've finally realised what happened. I saved the PDF file that Gazal world sent me to text using Adobe Reader's inbuilt feature for doing this, which probably used the inbuilt text in the PDF for guidance. Unfortunately, the inbuilt text layer was a (as it turns out) badly OCR'd version of the original, and the text I was originally searching for (around page 72) just happened to be missing; I guess it was obscured by the picture of Clarke with the tenor saxophonist. I've OCR'd it again from scratch and now have a much better version which I'm satisfied with to work from. Thanks to both of you for your help with this. '''[[User:Graham87|Graham]]'''[[User talk:Graham87|<span style="color: green;">87</span>]] 07:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::Excellent. Marking this thread as resolved. —&nbsp;[[User:Pajz|Pajz]] ([[User talk:Pajz|talk]]) 09:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

== "Stuck In The Mat" ==

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Can I get this paper, "Stuck in the mat: Obamus coronatus, a new benthic organism from the Ediacara Member, Rawnsley Quartzite, South Australia" [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08120099.2018.1479306?journalCode=taje20]? Thank you in advance.--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 02:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Apokryltaros}} {{sent}}. --[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 04:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

::Thank you!--[[User:Apokryltaros|Mr Fink]] ([[User talk:Apokryltaros|talk]]) 05:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)