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:{{sent}}. --[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 16:15, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

::Received, {{u|Gazal world}} , many thakns. Slightly emabassingly, I've found something else. But instead of tacking it onto this request, I'll open a new one :) [[User:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:dark blue">'''—SerialNumber54129'''</span>]]^{[[Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:red">''' paranoia /'''</span>]][[User talk:Serial Number 54129|'''cheap sh*t room''']]} 16:49, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

== Need someone fluent in Chinese to search for a 30-year-old factoid that everyone knows but no one cites. ==

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I can't ask for a specific article or such because I don't where it would have been published, if ever was published, and it is mostly likely in Chinese; it's going to require some search.

I have been re-writing [[1976 Tangshan earthquake]], for which there is broad range of soft figures for the total [[1976 Tangshan earthquake#Death toll|death toll]]. I am particularly interested identifying an official (i.e., PRC, or perhaps Hebei provincial) source for what many sources reiterate as the "official" death toll of 270,000. (Not to be confused with the 242,419 figure given by [[1976 Tangshan earthquake#CITEREFChenTsoiChenGao1988|Chen et al. (1988)]].) Is there anyone suitably qualified that might interested? Or any suggestions? &diams;&nbsp;[[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson&nbsp;(JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson#top|talk]]) 23:19, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

:You want a gov.cn webpage with 270,000 figure, you've got some. You want a gov.cn webpage with 240,000 figure, you can have some of those too. Just google '唐山地震 "27萬" site:gov.cn' or 24萬 as the case may be and you'll find some. -- [[User:KTC|KTC]] ([[User talk:KTC|talk]]) 23:43, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

::Cool! And with Google Translate I can even get some sense of the page found. However, there are still a lot of hits (and a lot of translation). Is there any way to limit this to something like "Bureau of Statistics"? I did try "site:cea.gov.cn" (Chinese Earthquake Authority), and got two pdf documents. But they were too big for Google Translate. &diams;&nbsp;[[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson&nbsp;(JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson#top|talk]]) 23:47, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

:::Returned results from cae.gov.cn uses the 240,000 figure, not 270,000. The two pdf you mentioned are referencing the [[1920 Haiyuan earthquake]] with its 270,000 casualties figure. hbdzj.gov.cn (Hebei Earthquake Agency) results likewise quote 240,000, and so does for example [http://www.stats.gov.cn/tjzs/tjsj/tjcb/zggqgl/200808/t20080820_37611.html this page] from the National Bureau of Statistics.

:::I suspect what you are looking for doesn't actually exist, and what happened was similar to what I did scanning [http://www.gxsin.gov.cn/info/449 this page]. Reading it for the first time I thought it stated that the Tangshan earthquake had a casualties of 270,000, whereas what it's actually doing is comparing Tangshan with the Haiyuan earthquake which had the 270,000 casualties.

:::Having looked at those search engine results again, I would suggest that 270,000 was a mistake made somewhere along the line that has been repeated onwards a bit like [https://xkcd.com/978/ this]. -- [[User:KTC|KTC]] ([[User talk:KTC|talk]]) 08:54, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

::::I think you're right: it doesn't exist. It's just a virtual factoid that goes around and around so fast it looks like it's there. (Now if I could just find a citation ....:-) Thanks for the good work. And the wonderful link. &diams;&nbsp;[[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson&nbsp;(JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson#top|talk]]) 20:59, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

==Five pages==

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If possible, from [[Robert Knecht]]'s ''Francis I''; pages '''328–333''' inclusive, if anyone can. It's [https://www.worldcat.org/title/francis-i/oclc/949367093?referer=br&ht=edition this book]. For the same article of course. There's two-fifths of the thing missing on GBooks unfortunately (for me, anyway). Thanks as ever to anyone that can help! [[User:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:dark blue">'''—SerialNumber54129'''</span>]]^{[[Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:red">''' paranoia /'''</span>]][[User talk:Serial Number 54129|'''cheap sh*t room''']]} 16:49, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Serial Number 54129}} You can borrow the book from [https://archive.org/details/francisi00knec here]. Cheers. --[[User:Gazal world|Gazal world]] ([[User talk:Gazal world|talk]]) 17:05, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

::Aaagh! Brilliant! Thanks {{u|Gazal world}}, I didn't even know that was a thing! Cheers! [[User:Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:dark blue">'''—SerialNumber54129'''</span>]]^{[[Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129|<span style="color:red">''' paranoia /'''</span>]][[User talk:Serial Number 54129|'''cheap sh*t room''']]} 17:30, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

== Article in ''The New York Times'' ==

Hello. In order to create [[Angela Bowen]], could someone please send me [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/22/obituaries/angela-bowen-dies.html this article]? Please ping me when you have it. Thanks![[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 00:41, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Zigzig20s}} sent. --[[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce|talk]]) 01:15, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

::Thank you.[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 01:26, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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