Content deleted Content added
m Archiving 2 discussion(s) from Module talk:Zh) (bot |
m Archiving 1 discussion(s) from Module talk:Zh) (bot |
||
Line 306:
::: Though according to the [http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry registry], the prefix for <code>jyutping</code> is just <code>yue</code>. [[User talk:Kanguole|Kanguole]] 14:33, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
::::Yes, according to the registry <code>yue-jyutping</code> is the correct way to tag it. It does seem odd but I think that registry contains a lot of legacy standards, created at different times, which are not consistent between e.g. pinyin and jyutping. As it’s the standard, as has been part of it since 2010, all browsers should support it.--<small>[[User:JohnBlackburne|JohnBlackburne]]</small><sup>[[User_talk:JohnBlackburne|words]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/JohnBlackburne|deeds]]</sub> 09:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
== Bbánlám pìngyīm ==
{{ping|Citobun|Kanguole|JohnBlackburne}} {{u|Sunshine567}} has asked me to add [[Bbánlám pìngyīm]] to the module. Is there consensus for doing this? [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) <small><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use {{[[Template:Reply to|re]]|Jc86035}}<br />to reply to me</span></small> 11:31, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
: I’ve added it to the sandbox in a similar way to other pinyin, e.g.
:: {{Zh/sandbox|t=閩拼方案|bp= Bbínpīn Hōngàn}}
: I don’t know if it’s a commonly used Romanisation, or at all used, but we don’t actually have a criteria for inclusion, and some of the ones in there are already pretty obscure. If no-one has any objections I’d say put it in.--<small>[[User:JohnBlackburne|JohnBlackburne]]</small><sup>[[User_talk:JohnBlackburne|words]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/JohnBlackburne|deeds]]</sub> 12:02, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
::If the first principle for inclusion be that the system of Romanisation has a degree of prevalence of use, it may be that [[Bbánlám pìngyīm]] fails the test. Only one source is cited for support of its WP entry and we already have the well-established [[Pe̍h-ōe-jī]] system for Amoy/Xiamen Hokkien in the template. So I would suggest caution about adding what may be an obscure method. [[user:sirlanz|sirlanz]] 12:09, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
::As to the obscurity point, none of those systems in the template now can be described as "pretty obscure" or certainly not in the same league of the obscurity of the proposed new inclusion. Without more input, I would say it's a bad move to add it. [[user:sirlanz|sirlanz]] 13:25, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
:::It's included in {{tl|Infobox Chinese/Chinese}}, but there are many other romanizations included there but not here, so if this is added then so should the rest of them, I guess. [[User:Jc86035|Jc86035]] ([[User talk:Jc86035|talk]]) <small><span style="display:inline-block;margin-bottom:-0.3em;vertical-align:-0.4em;line-height:1.2em;font-size:80%;text-align:left">Use {{[[Template:Reply to|re]]|Jc86035}}<br />to reply to me</span></small> 13:48, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Infobox facilitates appearance of a Romanisation in a very limited way; the template here opens up use throughout article text, so there are good reasons to be very restrictive. Indeed, the real issue here is whether there ought to be a WP:en policy about Romanisation of Chinese or just open slather. Each dialect should be limited to one or, at most, two Romanisation schemes and the scheme(s) ought to be chosen based upon (1) prevalence of use by knowledgeable English readers and (2) ease of comprehension by uninformed readers. We should attempt not to admit Romanisation scattershot across the pages; adding this particular minnow of Romanisation will not assist here. [[user:sirlanz|sirlanz]] 14:31, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
: {{u|Sunshine567}}, can you say where you think this will be used, as in in what articles other than [[Bbánlám pìngyīm]]? --<small>[[User:JohnBlackburne|JohnBlackburne]]</small><sup>[[User_talk:JohnBlackburne|words]]</sup><sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;">[[Special:Contributions/JohnBlackburne|deeds]]</sub> 13:55, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
| |||