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::Probably not relevant to this Arbitration case, but I think there are problems. Which critics? Peer reviewed? William F. Williams (ed.) in his book [[Encyclopedia of Pseudoscience]] lists 2000 entries... but doesn't say why each entry is included. Cosmology was once deemed pseudoscience by [[Stephen Hawking]],[http://books.google.com/books?id=B18DXurmFZ8C&vid=ISBN9810210787&dq=cosmology+pseudoscience&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&sig=3kUPCUsutTSoxxPQT_-ZnTq7Vqo&q=cosmology+pseudoscience][http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN140200155X&id=WOjraq3KdeQC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=cosmology+pseudoscience&sig=HToMI1FluZxg3A6fYGiav5KKANg][http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN140200155X&id=WOjraq3KdeQC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=cosmology+pseudoscience&sig=HToMI1FluZxg3A6fYGiav5KKANg] and astronomer [[Herbert Dingle]],[http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN069100546X&id=f6p0AFgzeMsC&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&vq=pseudoscience&sig=acWgchkljL_Up841MWn1zlNCgIs] and others,[http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN1563960613&id=ovXYxdSuOhkC&pg=PR9&lpg=PR9&vq=pseudo-science+cosmology&dq=cosmology+pseudo-science&sig=RC1m-RUlW5ZCDrC-XuvXpLopVLQ], but unless we can describe this in each articles concerned, the category tag is not going to satisfy the curiosity of the reader. --[[User:Iantresman|Iantresman]] 16:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
::: That which has ''previously'' been so described, but where the critics have changed their minds, does not really meet the definition. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> 20:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
::: [[User:Iantresman|Iantresman]] wrote above that "Cosmology was once deemed pseudoscience by [[Stephen Hawking]],[http://books.google.com/books?id=B18DXurmFZ8C&vid=ISBN9810210787&dq=cosmology+pseudoscience&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&sig=3kUPCUsutTSoxxPQT_-ZnTq7Vqo&q=cosmology+pseudoscience][http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN140200155X&id=WOjraq3KdeQC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=cosmology+pseudoscience&sig=HToMI1FluZxg3A6fYGiav5KKANg][http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN140200155X&id=WOjraq3KdeQC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=cosmology+pseudoscience&sig=HToMI1FluZxg3A6fYGiav5KKANg] ...". However, those three cites are writings by [[Stephen Hawking]] in which Hawking writes that "Cosmology was thought of as a pseudo science", "Cosmology used to be regarded as a pseudoscience...", and "Cosmology used to be regarded as a pseudoscience...". [Yes, Ian cited the same source twice.] In other words, Hawking says that nameless other people used to regard cosmology as a pseudoscience, but does not say that he himself ever regarded it as a pseudoscience. [[User:Cardamon|Cardamon]] 08:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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