Buzick

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The Oxford Latin Dictionary cites 'tesitcles' or 'penis' [app. derogatory] for the word 'cicer' as used by the satiric poet Juvenal. While this is, admittedly, inconclusive evidence that the word was in common usage in this sense during Cicero's life (+150 years before) it is just as "conclusive" as any appeal to Plutarch who 1) wrote in Greek [a different language] and 2) was just as far behind the life of Cicero chronologically as Juvenal. The assertion that I "vandalized" an article on Cicero is ludicrous. You clearly think that anything with the words 'testicle'or 'penis' is derogatory. Perhaps this is why Plutarch, although mistaken, thought that Cicero refused to change his name on his entrance to politics despite being advised otherwise. Plutarch is a notoriously unreliable source, and the fact that this article relies on it so heavily on an author with a moralizing agenda puts its credibility seriously in doubt. In general, I find this article wholly without scholarly support and reject the notion wholesale that I am in some way defaming a life that is so clearly underrepresented herein. I will not play in your sandbox simply because I express ideas with which you are uncomfortable.

:I fully admit that I am not an expert on the subject. But you're uncited change is similar to vandalism that occurs routinely on Wikipedia (which is why it was highlighted on an anti-vandalism tool.) Since you can cite a reference, feel free to add the comment back, but add a reference/citation since others may see the comment and reach the same conclusion. Uncited references making unsupported claims that "''cicer'' also being a pejorative term for [[testicles]]" (even if accurate) WILL generally be deleted as vandalism. In the meantime, I do advise that you review [[Wikipedia:Civility]]. As your response has gone beyond a civil discussion to personal attacks.[[User:Balloonman|Balloonman]] 18:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)