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:{{ping|MrLinkinPark333}} Is this it? https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/entertainment/books/2001/05/13/unlikely-heroes-challenge-authority-in-these-five-novels-about-race-teen-woes-and-hardship/d64b4a7d-168b-4bbd-ac03-2ac8d9a4b530/?utm_term=.66e1d4bc5707 Cheers, [[User:Genericusername57|Genericusername57]] ([[User talk:Genericusername57|talk]]) 20:40, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

::Wow. You saved me a lot of trouble! Thank you! {{ping|Genericusername57}} --[[User:MrLinkinPark333|MrLinkinPark333]] ([[User talk:MrLinkinPark333|talk]]) 20:44, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

== Official Verbatim Report of the Parliamentary Debates of the Zambian National Assembly ==

A bit of a tricky one this. I am using the Official Verbatim Reports from debates in the Zambian National Assembly to compile a list of MPs in Zambia since independence (see [[List of members of the National Assembly of Zambia (1964–68)|1964–68]] and [[List of members of the National Assembly of Zambia (1969–73)|1969–73]], which are now complete) and the ministerial positions held by said MPs so that I can complete the lists of ministers and create decent articles on every MP and minister (e.g. [[Sikota Wina]]).

Unfortunately there are several volumes that I have been unable to access via the British Library but some appear to be on Google Books, apparently in blocks of two (based on searches like [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=O5QaAAAAIAAJ&dq=editions%3AUCALB3890221&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Luwingu+West%22 this], it appears that there are two listings in each set – both of which I would like if possible). In many cases it is not clear what the page numbers are. However, at the start of every report there is a title page, followed by a list of ministers and then a list of constituency MPs. This is what I am ultimately after in order to get a full record of MPs and ministers.

The volumes I have not been able to access are:

*mid-late 1973 ([https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zJMaAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22Sylvester+Chisembele%22+official+verbatim+report&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22gwembe+north%22 mid-1973 is here], showing a double listing (you may have to click on the search button again to make it appear)). I have the first volume of 1973 (January to March)

*1974 ([https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=O5QaAAAAIAAJ&dq=editions%3AUCALB3890221&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Luwingu+West%22 mid-1974 here], another double listing)

*1975 ([https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tZMaAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22Sylvester%20Chisembele%22%20official%20verbatim%20report&source=gbs_book_other_versions not searchable])

*1976 ([https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LZIaAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22Sylvester+Chisembele%22+official+verbatim+report&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Luwingu+West%22 mid-1976 here], another double listing)

*1977 – not on Google Books?

*1978 ([https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dHVPAQAAMAAJ&dq=%22lloyd%2C%20mrs%20alice%20pearce%22&source=gbs_book_other_versions here])

*1979 – not on Google Books?

If I can access these, then I can ensure that [[List of members of the National Assembly of Zambia (1973–78)]] and [[List of members of the National Assembly of Zambia (1978–83)]] are complete (I suspect they are currently missing any MPs elected in by-elections or replacement nominee MPs).

Hope that all makes sense. Cheers, [[User:Number 57|<span style="color: orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color: green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color: blue;">7</span>]] 22:33, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

:{{u|Number 57}}, of the works that you have, do any indicate what the copyright status is? Some countries (but undoubtedly not all) would release such works into the public ___domain, and if that were the case here, Google Books might allow full view. --[[User:Usernameunique|Usernameunique]] ([[User talk:Usernameunique|talk]]) 05:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

::{{ping|Usernameunique}} Unfortunately I only took photos of the pages I needed, which don't contain the copyright detail... If it's helpful, I can get another edition out from the library to check, but I am currently overseas and won't be able to access the library until early May. [[User:Number 57|<span style="color: orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color: green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color: blue;">7</span>]] 11:13, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

:::{{u|Number 57}} & {{u|Usernameunique}}, section 12.(2) of the [http://www.parliament.gov.zm/sites/default/files/documents/acts/Copyright%20and%20Performance%20Rights%20Act.pdf Zambian Copyright and Performance Rights Act] says government copyrights last for fifty years after publication. It's possible that the reports were and are public ___domain, but where the copyright law ''itself'' is copyrighted, it seems unlikely. [[User:BlackcurrantTea|BlackcurrantTea]] ([[User talk:BlackcurrantTea|talk]]) 16:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

::::I guess I an solve! Ordered it, but unsure if I get it. Wait for about two weeks.--[[User:Antemister|Antemister]] ([[User talk:Antemister|talk]]) 10:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

:::::{{u|Number 57}} Got two volumes, I think (vol. 35) and a thin (vol. 36), both from 1974, they contain a list of the MPs, will copy them. Do you need additional lists exept the one for the 1978-1983 aparliament?--[[User:Antemister|Antemister]] ([[User talk:Antemister|talk]]) 15:50, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

::::::{{ping|Antemister}} Apologies, I didn't get this ping for some reason. In terms of what I'm still missing (aside from the ones listed above from 1975–1978)):

::::::*1978–1983 parliament – missing the entire first session (1979). Nothing between March and November 1982. Missing the first report from the fifth session (early 1983). Nothing after July 1983, but not sure if it was in session.

::::::*1983–1988 parliament – possibly missing one between March 1984 and January 1985 (not sure if the NA was in session). I also have nothing between March 1985 and August 1986, and nothing after August 1986.

::::::*1988–1991 parliament – I have nothing except June–August 1991 (third session resumed)

::::::*1991–1996 parliament – missing the initial report from the second session (early 1993 I think) and I have nothing after August 1994.

::::::Hope that all makes sense? [[User:Number 57|<span style="color: orange;">Number</span>]] [[User talk:Number 57|<span style="color: green;">5</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Number 57|<span style="color: blue;">7</span>]] 21:49, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

{{u|Number 57}}, for the 1980s, the holdings become more incomplete: UB Bayreuth has 59.1982; 64.1983 - 65.1984; 67.1985; 71.1986; 74.1987 according to ZDB. Should I order, like before, the list of MPs?--[[User:Antemister|Antemister]] ([[User talk:Antemister|talk]]) 07:27, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

{{u|Number 57}}, apparently I have access to 1972-1978, but I'm about to leave town for an extended period and won't be able to visit that library until about mid-September. Feel free to contact me then. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]^{<small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small>} 02:35, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|Zero0000}} I was wondering if you could help with this request. It's currently stuck at the moment. Thank you if you have time. :) --[[User:MrLinkinPark333|MrLinkinPark333]] ([[User talk:MrLinkinPark333|talk]]) 17:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

::{{ping|MrLinkinPark333}} Is the list at the top of this request still a correct list of what is missing? If not, please make a new list. I should be able to copy what I have available in the next week. [[User:Zero0000|Zero]]^{<small>[[User_talk:Zero0000|talk]]</small>} 11:43, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Zero0000}} I do not know. {{u|Number 57}} have you received any of the two lists? --[[User:MrLinkinPark333|MrLinkinPark333]] ([[User talk:MrLinkinPark333|talk]]) 17:47, 23 October 2018 (UTC)