Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 12: Difference between revisions

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*****There may not be a guideline explicitly saying that, but most categories use word(s) that match article(s) (or at least a redirect to part of an article that defines the topic). <b>[[User:DexDor|DexDor]]</b>^{[[User talk:DexDor|(talk)]]} 06:53, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

**{{cl|Masticatories}} is a less bad name than the original, but I still struggle with the idea that there's a real connection between the members of the category, it feels like categorising grass and treefrogs together because they are both green. The fact that we've got to 2019 without an article about [[masticatories]] strongly suggests to be that this is a grouping with no great links between them, so it's not [[WP:DEFINING]]. I'd suggest to [[User:SchmuckyTheCat]] that the way ahead would be not a category but a list article that can be filled out, lists generally work better for these kind of things where the grouping is a bit debatable. For instance, people chew sugarcane for pleasure, does that count? What about steak? Categories should have clean boundaries as far as possible. [[User:Le Deluge|Le Deluge]] ([[User talk:Le Deluge|talk]]) 13:36, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

***I'm not opposed to a rename, it's probably the word I was looking for. And it's not like the color green. Chewing things is a curious thing that humans do. Why isn't there an article? As to boundaries: Use reliable sources. [[User:SchmuckyTheCat|SchmuckyTheCat]] ([[User talk:SchmuckyTheCat|talk]]) 19:40, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. Both [[masticate]] and [[mastication]] point to [[Chewing]], we don't have [[masticatory]] but we do have [[masturbatory]] so maybe we should make a new redirect? Anyway, "things you chew" is not the same thing as "(1) recreational (2) sublabial (3) drugs". I don't think you chew sublabial drugs (or maybe not all of them), I think they're supposed to dissolve under the lip. I say delete for three reasons. "Recreational" is too subjective/broad to be a meaningful limiter. There are sublabial pharmaceuticals that some people take as medicine and other take recreationally (like marijuana and pain killers in liquid form). ''Every'' drug is recreational, if you ask me or [[Hunter S. Thompson]]. "Drug" is also too subjective/broad to be a meaningful limiter, as it includes heroin and coffee and aspirin and everything in between. Finally, while in the medical context, sublabial means "under the lip" and refers to one's mouth, in the context of "recreational drugs", there could be some confusion about using the term "sublabial", given how some illegal drugs are used recreationally (or so I've heard). Anyway, too ambiguous of a name for a category, though "Masticatories" sounds like it would work as a category name (as long as we're careful not to make typos when creating it) for "things people chew", and "Sublabial medication" might be the category for pharmaceuticals administered through [[sublabial administration]] (as opposed to "Sublingual medication" for [[sublingual administration]]). [[User:Levivich|'''^Leviv<sub style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(45deg);">ich</sub>''']]<span style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(270deg);">[[User talk:Levivich|?]] [[Special:Contribs/Levivich|!]]</span> 07:45, 24 January 2019 (UTC)