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*'''Keep''' Someone like [[Robert F. Kennedy Jr.]] is not just hesitant about vaccination, he goes around actively promoting the false narrative that it leads to Autism. I understand why some view this whole campaign as problematic, but this is people stirring up controversy, not hesitancy. We should rename the main article back as well.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 05:40, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This idea of vaccine hesitancy is one of many attempts to influence and control narratives by changing the debate. The problem is that people who believe vaccines cause any number of horrid side effects are not "hesitant" they are all out seeking to make controversies. This adds up to an attempt to rewrite language to steer debate. Like much of the rhetoric in these debates it seems to miss what is really going on. There are deep philosophical ideas at play here, as much about struggles for family autonomy verses an ever encroching state that exist.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 19:06, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
*'''Oppose nom''' -- '''Rename''' [[:Category:Vaccination controversies]]. The most obvious case is MMR, which was the result of bad science getting past the academic refereeing process (where it should have been stopped), with the result that what should have been fake news received publicity that it did not deserve. However that happened, so that we have to have articles (and a category). It is certainly true that occasionally vaccines produce an adverse reaction, but non-vaccination also carries a risk, that of getting the disease and suffering disabling complications. For a vaccination programme to be effective, a large proportion of the population needs to be immunised. Where they are not, there is a severe risk of an epidemic. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 14:22, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 
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