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**Mentioned the Fabians, but not exec cttee membership: [[Hubert Bland]] (opening sentence of lede notes he was one of the founders of the Fabians), [[Barbara Drake]] (describes her as a Fabian, but the article text never mentions the exec cttee)

**Mentioned exec cttee in lede (sort of): [[Isabel Priestley]] (only a stub with three short paragraphs, and her membership is mentioned in the second paragraph), [[Ambrose Appelbe]] (stub with four paragraphs, membership is mentioned in the third) [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 17:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

:*'''Keep''' The fact that Fabians are not mentioned in the ledes is not terribly significant. Membership of the Executive Committee was more important for some of these people than others, and its defining importance in the early lives of some was eclipsed by later achievements. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 21:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

::**For whom is it a defining characteristic? It's still a secondary characteristic for, ''e.g.'', [[Isabel Priestley]] and [[Ambrose Appelbe]]. [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 22:15, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

**(ec) @[[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]], that is a broader problem with [[WP:DEFINING]]. Attribute X may represent the pinnacle of the career of person A, but they may have served alongside Person B who did so much else at a higher level that X is a mere footnote in their life. In such cases we have to make a judgement on X's definingness across the set as a whole. In this case I agree that being on the Fabian Exec was defining for most, even for Denis Healey. But other cases are much less clearcut, and the philosophical problem is irresoluble within our current framework. In an ideal world, we might able to rank the categories applied to each article, so that readers could choose to view only the most defining, but the software doesn't allow it and we haven't enough editors to do it.--22:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

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