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All non-displayed English variant tags are inferior to their edit notice alternatives (compare {{tl|Use American English}} to {{tl|American English}}). First off, these don't display so there is no indication that a certain variety of English is to be used unless you happen to be editing near where the template is in the body and ''that'' can be at the top or bottom of an article in practice--section editing would not give you any indication. Secondly, the only goal of a non-displaying template would be to do tracking which the edit notice versions do anyway. There is no incentive to have a parallel version of the same functionality that has less benefit. I propose deleting all instances of {{tl|Use American English}}, {{tl|Use Australian English}}, {{tl|Use Bangladeshi English}}, {{tl|Use British English}}, {{tl|Use British English Oxford spelling}}, {{tl|Use Canadian English}}, {{tl|Use Commonwealth English}}, {{tl|Use Hong Kong English}}, {{tl|Use Indian English}}, {{tl|Use Irish English}}, {{tl|Use Jamaican English}}, {{tl|Use New Zealand English}}, {{tl|Use Nigerian English}}, {{tl|Use Pakistani English}}, {{tl|Use Singapore English}}, {{tl|Use South African English}}, {{tl|Use Trinidadian English}} and convert them all to editnotices that will actually display when it's useful: as someone tries to edit the article. I'm willing to help with conversion, which would be fairly straightforward if a little time-consuming. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' These are intentionally non-displaying; their main purpose is to give an indication to bots and scripts as to which variant is the preferred one for the article. They also categorise the page, which an editnotice cannot do. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:20, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
**{{Ping|Redrose64}} Then why have templates at all instead of just a category? ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:18, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Redrose64. I frequently check for the category these templates produce to determine correct variants for an article.-<span style="font-family:cursive; color:grey;">[[User talk:gadfium|gadfium]]</span> 22:25, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' per above rationale.--[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 22:42, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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