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::::Oh, I should have proposed upmerger, not deletion, shouldn't I? [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 15:54, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - if Fabian Society Executive Committee is not mentioned in an article then the category should be removed. (Editors should not be 'chopping' school alumni categories from articles (assuming the school is mentioned and preferably sourced). I think (in practice) we categorize by defining characteristics and also a list of factoids - year of birth, death, place person is from, school, university + a few others.) [[User:Oculi|Oculi]] ([[User talk:Oculi|talk]]) 11:09, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
::I think, in practice, we ''should'' follow agreed guidelines ([[WP:NONDEF]]), which are that we categorise by defining characteristics ''only''. [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 09:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' There are plenty of categories which are defining for some of the members, but not for others. Sometimes they reveal interesting connections which have not been generally noticed. I think we should keep them if they are significant for a reasonable number. I dont see much harm done if that means some people appear in categories which, as far as they are concerned, are not really defining. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 21:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
::The harm is that we would be acting against an editing guideline in [[WP:NONDEF]]. Have a debate and change the guideline if you like, but I think it's unhelpful to try a backdoor subversion of an agreed guideline. [[User:Bondegezou|Bondegezou]] ([[User talk:Bondegezou|talk]]) 09:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom. Note that ''especially'' with biographies we should strictly keep to [[WP:DEFINING]] since biography articles too often contain a huge list of categories already, so that nobody can see the wood for the trees, which just undermines the usefulness of the category system. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 22:14, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support in Principle/Upmerge''' to [[:Category:Members of the Fabian Society]]. While these people do seem definined by their socialism and that is often intertwined with their Fabian Society activities, the couple hundred people in this category (of which I clicked on like 20) don't seem defined by what appears to be a volunteer stint in this executive role. (We have a parent category for any member though which is not nominated so I don't favor a straight deletion.) [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 02:01, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
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