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** The references are updated, includes two articles published in Youm7 and written by another author (Mones Hawas - Not listed in Ring Team) also Criticism section is added. [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 17:12, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
***I appreciate that, but the existence of the article by Salah (whose conflict of interest doesn't seem to be disclosed in the article) makes me suspicious of Youm7 as a whole as a reliable, independent source for this topic. [[User:Colin M|Colin M]] ([[User talk:Colin M|talk]]) 19:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
****I understand your feelings, but Salah wrote only one article about Ring in 2016 and it looks like they updated the [http://ring-lang.net/team.html Ring Team page] [https://github.com/ring-lang/ring/commit/25893637da0ea2abd9f12cbb0c43ed3725697dc6 2] to demonstrates that there is no conflict of interest. Since this updated could be done based on reading this discussion, I think it will be fair to still consider Salah article as primary source, but consider the 2 other articles by Mones Hawas in Youm7 that I discovered and added to the article as secondary resources. Also the article topic establish notability using other resources. [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 22:06, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' [https://www.youm7.com/story/2016/1/11/%D9%81%D9%89-25-%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%84-%D9%84%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%A9-%D8%AC%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D9%85%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D9%85%D9%86/2532713#.Vxg2-tQrLIU 1] [https://www.youm7.com/story/2016/11/23/%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A1-%D8%AA%D8%B7%D9%88%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%AF-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%AC%D8%A9-%D8%A8%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%83%D9%88%D8%AF/2979508 2] [https://store.steampowered.com/app/939200/Gold_Magic_800/ 3] [https://www.codeproject.com/Tips/1222859/Different-styles-for-writing-Hello-World-program-i 4] [https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/1096942/Squares-Puzzle-using-RingAllegro 5] [https://www.ciklum.com/blog/new-programming-languages-a-hype-or-reality/ 6] [https://medium.com/@cryptovision/blockchain-app-development-outlook-will-we-all-write-apps-in-the-future-fe5704247b4e 7] printed journals, reviewed articles and usage by some companies (enough to establish notability and a lot of references could be added). Also listed in top 100 programming languages by [https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ TIOBE Index] and it was in [https://glinksolutions.vn/2018/06/28/evolution-ring-programming-language/ top 50 in 2018]. Yes popularity is not notability but both of them is good indicator. [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 16:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
** That ranking uses a [https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programming-languages-definition/ dubious methodology] based on [[WP:GOOGLEHITS]]. "Ring" is a common word that's more likely to produce false positive matches (even when combined with the word "programming") than say, Common Lisp, Erlang, PowerShell, etc. For example, most of the Bing results for "ring programming" after the first couple pages are false positives (e.g. [http://www.plcmanual.com/examples-vi] [http://www.fixya.com/support/t3011890-turn_off_ringer_nortel_t7316e] [https://forum.nfcring.com/topic/615/programming-nfc-ring-with-rfid-data] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_ring]) [[User:Colin M|Colin M]] ([[User talk:Colin M|talk]]) 18:56, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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