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:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Model railroad manufacturers]] to [[:Category:Toy train manufacturers]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Substantial overlap of concept. Many manufacturers produce stuff for both ends of the market, and people who start off with toy trains progress to models. There is no clear boundary between them. Maybe needs a different name - perhaps "Toy and model railway manufacturers" or "Rail transport modelling companies"? [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 17:16, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
:*'''Comment''' There is a clear distinction between a [[Scale model]] and a toy; which I seem to remember being discussed here before. I don't think merging these two is actually gone to improve things. [[User:Twiceuponatime|Twiceuponatime]] ([[User talk:Twiceuponatime|talk]]) 09:21, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
::*I think you are wrong to suggest there is a clear distinction between the two. There is a continuum. Some products are clearly toys, some are clearly models, many can be seen as either. Toy trains are all made to a scale. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 14:56, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:::*...and they are quite distinct. Twiceuponatime is right - there is a clear distinction. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 15:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Oppose'''. Model railways and toy trains are different things, as Twiceuponatime points out. There are some companies, however, which manufacture both, hence the incorrect perception of a continuum. I would, however, support a renaming of the proposed category to {{cl|Model rail manufacturers}} as a language neutral form. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 15:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
*Most of the companies produce both models and toys, and much of what they produce can be described as either. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 08:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
:* That may be true, but what I look at is whether your proposal to merge is going to improve the category structure. I can accept that the present structure is far from perfect, but I cannot see that your proposal makes things better. [[User:Twiceuponatime|Twiceuponatime]] ([[User talk:Twiceuponatime|talk]]) 09:45, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 
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