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******* Your five refs about Ring: Code Project accepts user submited content - not a RS; general reliability of youm7 was disputed above by Colin M and I share his feeling; BIMArabia seems to publish anything you throw at them, but I can´t base my judgement on Google translate. Certainly not stellar sourcing in your selection. I´m leaning to delete. [[User:Pavlor|Pavlor]] ([[User talk:Pavlor|talk]]) 08:27, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
******** Articles in CodeProject are reviewed articles, <b>CodeProject Editors review each article before publication</b>. [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 11:32, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
******** <b>The Youm7 articles indicates that Ring and PWCT are related projects and this Wikipedia article cover both of them</b>, Also there are 4 articles in Youm7 by 3 different authors in different years (2011, 2016, 2018), not only one author (<b>Ignoring these articles based on feelings is not fair</b>). <b>The BIMArabia article is 3 pages (printed magazine)</b>, Also the other resources about PWCT like [https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1167344.pdf][https://computertotaal.nl/artikelen/apps-software/de-beste-freeware-tips-van-oktober-4/][http://doublesvsoop.sourceforge.net/al_allam_magazine_issue_number_116.pdf#page=26] are enough for notability. (And there are more resources in the table). [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 08:49, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
********* Your approach certainly is not helping. I will give you one last chance: Select one (ONLY ONE = 1) source about Ring (not anything else) you think is best (eg. magazine with editorial staff, respected publisher, independent on the article subject, broad coverage of the article subject). I will review this source and decide for myself. Note more than one reliable source are required to satisfy GNG, but one really good source is enough for me to reconsider my choice. Your turn. [[User:Pavlor|Pavlor]] ([[User talk:Pavlor|talk]]) 09:05, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
********** Why you are talking to me in this way? I am not an employee under your control!, Also I don't care at all about your opinion which is based on feelings and ignoring references listed above (You don't like to invest your time, and my time is valuable too), I just shared my opinion about this topic, updated the article, listed references, I did what I think is useful for Wikipedia, and this is enough for me. Thanks [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 09:18, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' 10 righteous people could save one city, 1 single source could save this article. If there is not at least one good source to discuss, then there is no policy based reason to keep this article. [[User:Pavlor|Pavlor]] ([[User talk:Pavlor|talk]]) 09:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
** There are resources listed in the table above, but you are ignoring them because You want to vote without investing time to evaluate resources (which is not recommended), (You ignored 4 articles in Youm7 based on feelings ! NOT FAIR). Also you ignored articles in printed magazine because you don't know Arabic [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 09:56, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
* '''Last Comment''' I feel that some people who voted for deleting this article are just ignoring the references that establish notability (This doesn't help Wikipedia), <b>The article topic cover Ring and related projects (Supernova & PWCT), and I listed three good references for PWCT notability like [https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1167344.pdf][https://computertotaal.nl/artikelen/apps-software/de-beste-freeware-tips-van-oktober-4/][http://doublesvsoop.sourceforge.net/al_allam_magazine_issue_number_116.pdf#page=26]</b> and they are ignoring them!, Also they ignore articles published in journal (Youm7) by 4 different authors based on feelings that doesn't make sense! And they ignore articles in printed magazines like [http://bimarabia.com/download/BIMarabia_Arabic/BIMarabia27.pdf#page=8] because they don't know Arabic! Those people, I respect them but I can't help them to see the reality! Thanks to all of them, but I hope that Wikipedia contributors learn to invest some more time in evaluation, and learn to not ignore references that they don't uderstand and learn to vote based on facts not feelings! [[User:Charmk|Charmk]] ([[User talk:Charmk|talk]]) 09:48, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
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