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::::*Something doesn't have to be formally named to be a proper name! Prince-Bishopric of Montenegro is ''used'' as a proper name, as it is used as the name of the state entity which was Montenegro at the time. Whether it was ''officially'' used or not is irrelevant. United States is not the official name of the United States of America; does that mean it shouldn't be capitalised? It is a convention in English to treat such names as proper names and capitalise them. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 14:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::: Isn't United States an abbreviated common name form with retained capital letter from full proper name? [[User:PPEMES|PPEMES]] ([[User talk:PPEMES|talk]]) 16:31, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Of course, but why should it have? United states is a generic title without the America bit added. Yet we do retain the capitalisation. Because it's convention to capitalise anything being used as the name of a specific entity. That's my point. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 09:11, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' It is not a title, it is a description. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 22:34, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
**Prince-Bishopric of Montenegro is clearly a proper name. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 09:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)