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Since the "Save" button became "Publish changes", this template's use of the term "save" may confuse some users. Is there an unambiguous way to reword the above sentence and thus avoid any confusion?--[[User:Quisqualis|Quisqualis]] ([[User talk:Quisqualis|talk]]) 06:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

== Uw-multipleIPs ==

How is [[Template:Uw-multipleIPs]] helpful? Is it intended for [[dynamic IP]]s or static IPs? Dynamic IPs didn't change IPs to evade a block – changing IPs is automatic for them, and they might not even know what an IP is. Static IPs changed IPs to evade a block. So telling them it won't succeed and threatening another block, is just giving them a laugh. All that does is postpone the time when they will get tired of messing with us. Is there some technical issue I'm missing? [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 18:39, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

:Dynamic IP addresses often change when the PPP(oE)/DHCP sessions are reset (i.e. power cycling the modem/router or telling it to reconnect). In the case of IPv6 on mobile, the addresses often change within a /64 prefix. On the other hand I can't say that I've used this particular message yet. Using multiple addresses is usually considered like creating sockpuppet accounts and when a page is disrupted by multiple addresses/users, page protection is usually increased... —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] – 05:08, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

::I've nearly nominated this template for deletion many times. I think the only chance it has is if the wording were somehow switched around. There is nothing wrong with using multiple IP addresses. In the large majority of cases where this template is used it's not a deliberate choice. However, there is something wrong with ''doing vandalism'' (while using multiple addresses). Being warned for using the addresses ("Do not use multiple [[IP address]]es") is completely missing the point. The previous wording, although not perfect, got across the real meaning of the message: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Uw-multipleIPs&diff=407740599&oldid=396788781 "You have repeatedly been warned to stop your vandalism of articles on Wikipedia when you came here using other IPs. Please stop."] -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] ^{[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]} 08:37, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

:::Yes, my {{tqqi|Using multiple addresses is usually considered like creating sockpuppet accounts}} should have been: {{tqqi|Using multiple addresses for block evasion or attempting to evade scrutiny is usually considered like creating sockpuppet accounts}} indeed. This template is really in the context of vandalism, so I agree that it's strange. One thing that I can think of is when a patroller uses rollback but that it's not sufficient because another similar address also edited just before the new one (and this may even be missed). I would support its deletion, I think. On the other hand, its text used to be [[Special:Permalink/412201723|different]] and it seems to have been used at east {{sl|insource:"Template:Uw-multipleIPs"|10,738 times|ns3}} (substituted, so deletion would not affect existing instances). There still are many links to the template itself though... —[[User:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#44a;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Paleo</span>]][[User talk:PaleoNeonate|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#272;text-shadow:2px 2px 3px DimGray;">Neonate</span>]] – 09:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)