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**Evidence? [[User:HRKent444|HRKent444]] ([[User talk:HRKent444|talk]]) 20:24, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' or at least purge. [[The Bell Curve]] is a problematic book in many ways, but to call it "scientific racism" is to engage in misinformed attacks on the book itself. This category should be used with extreme caution, and if that cannot be achieved it should be scapped.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 07:17, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
::There are hundreds, if not thousands, of reliable, academic sources directly linking The Bell Curve to scientific racism as a simple defining trait. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 07:38, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' The placement of Charles Murray, an Anglo-American with an Asian wife, in this category amounts to character assasination and is a clear sign this category is being abused.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 07:18, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' The fact this is an attack term used by the fraudulent, discredited and racial stratifying SPLC to attack others shows this is largely a way to discredit the work of others. This becomes even more pronounced when people in the late 20th and 21st century like Charles Murray who write things the are less racist than anyone wrote in 1854 are grouped with the most extreme racists of the past.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 07:25, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' And how does [[Joseph Deniker]] fit in all of this? He was trying to classify race, but not propagate ideas of differential. He came up with 10 races in Europe alone for example. Considering how much modern academics invoke race at every turn, to use this as a pejorative attack on some people in such a selective way just does not work.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 07:29, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' This is a significant topic of academic study and for many ('''no, not all''') entries, it is well supportable by sources. As with any category, people and especially BLPs should be handled with caution, but that's not a justification for deletion. [[User:Grayfell|Grayfell]] ([[User talk:Grayfell|talk]]) 07:38, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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