Content deleted Content added
Cobaltcigs (talk | contribs) update on master list |
Cobaltcigs (talk | contribs) display_NNNN is baleeted |
||
Line 62:
**<code>start</code>/<code>end</code> parameters have been scrapped in favor of a single <code>range</code> parameter which can contain multiple ranges (connected by hyphen or en dash, and separated from each other by comma, whitespace, the word "and", or in fact anything that's not a hex digit).
*14 and 15. If the unicode block display names can't be made to exactly match the [[Module:Unicode data/blocks|"official" names]] in all cases, we'll need a (hopefully short) list of aliases. Adding a blocknamelink parameter which continues to default to <code>Blockname (Unicode chart)</code> if empty would be easy and sufficient. Let's try to avoid having three sets of names wherever possible.
**{{done}} <code>link_name</code> and <s><code>display_name</code></s> parameters added for differing cases. ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 13:13, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
*{{done}} 16. I don't see why not. See 13.
―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 18:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Line 108:
::Wow, I've never realised that U+1D159 is not a format character. Are there any other characters displayed as a dashed box around text that are not format or control characters? <s>I don't think so</s> (variation selectors are gc=Mn). The worrying thing is there seems to be no way of extracting the information from the UCD, so it relies on visually checking the Unicode code charts, but what if it changes suddenly to a graphic character in a new version of Unicode? My gut feeling is that gc=So is wrong if the character has no visible glyph and is not whitespace. [[User:BabelStone|BabelStone]] ([[User talk:BabelStone|talk]]) 22:52, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
::I couldn't immediately work out where you are specifying a smaller font size for "NULL NOTE HEAD" compared with "Begin Beam" etc. I think that all the dashed boxes need a smaller font size because (on my system at least) the dashed letters are much larger size than Basic Latin letters, and make the cells overwide. Can we simply add "font-size:75%" for td.box in [[Template:Unicode chart/styles.css]], or is there more to it? [[User:BabelStone|BabelStone]] ([[User talk:BabelStone|talk]]) 23:30, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
:::This text uses {{code|lang=css|span.small-1 { font-size:80%; } span.small-2 { font-size:59%; } }} wherein the suffix digit is determined by the number of spaces converted to linebreaks in whatever text is shown (which may be read from the aliases file or from a <s><code>display_NNNN</code></s> override parameter). Then the property {{code|lang=css|white-space:pre;}} forces <code>\n</code> to show up as literal linebreaks so we don't have to resort to {{code|lang=html|<br />}}. Thus one-word abbreviations such as <code>ACK</code> use the same size as regular chars. All of this can be easily changed. For now, I've tightened the dashed box and cell margins/padding a little bit. ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 10:08, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
==Version==
Line 142:
}}
: I can't find a file in the Unicode Character Database that lists the display forms for the dotted box characters. They aren't in [https://www.unicode.org/Public/UCD/latest/ucd/NamesList.txt NamesList.txt], which is parsed into the PDF that you linked to. So they would have to be gathered manually from the PDFs, unless they can be found somewhere else. — [[User:Erutuon|Eru]]·[[User talk:Erutuon|tuon]] 04:13, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
::As far as I know, there isn't anything in the UCD. I've always determined dotted box notation manually. BTW: I think the <s>display_20xx</s> parms above are appropriate. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 04:40, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
:: To clarify, "manually" would mean by visual approximation. Copy/paste gives us private-use codepoints assigned to arbitrary glyphs which represent the whole abbreviation (in some font that probably doesn't exist outside the PDF). So much eww. ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 13:39, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
::: If you're interested, the fonts with the dashed glyphs (SpecialsUC4/5/6.ttf) are bundled with the free [https://unicode.org/unibook/ Unibook] application that is used to generate the Unicode and ISO/IEC 10646 code charts. [[User:BabelStone|BabelStone]] ([[User talk:BabelStone|talk]]) 16:06, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Line 206:
::::: So my actual concern about U+206x is that stand-in symbols might be mistaken for the actual glyph '''even by readers otherwise familiar with "normal" control/format character abbreviations''' which consist of multiple capital letters. So some explanatory footnotes might really be needed there.
:::::: '''Agreed'''. My first draft of a note would be "A dashed box indicates characters which normally have no visible display or only modify the display of other characters. {{cite web|title = Dashed Box Convention | url = https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode12.0.0/ch24.pdf#G8175 | publisher=Unicode Consortium }}"<br />The citation might be overkill. Although the nuances are pretty complicated so maybe the citation is justified. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 02:04, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
::::: <s>Currently the display text can be overridden from the calling environment (ultimately, a block-specific template) for all assigned codepoints with few restrictions,<ref>Exception: whitespace characters, where the main grid disregards all abbreviations real or fake, instead forcing white-on-green rectangular display of the literal character to show relative size (and allow user to select/copy just like any other printable character). This differs from the source material but seems beneficial enough to justify. So for these codepoints, only in the lower info panel can the display text such as <span style="padding: 2px; border:1px dashed black;">NBSP</span> actually be overridden.</ref> which has been done in the U+206x example (and less constructively in the [[User:BabelStone/sandbox#Basic Latin (with various per-cell customizations)|"Vulgar" Latin]] sandbox section).</s> If we do load a master list of favored abbreviations from a sub-module (containing everything from <code>LF</code> to <code>NULL NOTE HEAD</code>), the <s><code>display_NNNN = FOO</code></s> parameters could be totally deleted.
::::::{{done}} and {{removed}}
::::: ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 23:14, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
:::::: '''Oops''', I completely forgot about the <s><code>display_NNNN = FOO</code></s> parm. I like the idea of a master list because it centralizes the data but either approach will work. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 02:04, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
::::::: +1 for a master list. [[User:BabelStone|BabelStone]] ([[User talk:BabelStone|talk]]) 16:13, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
:::::::: {{done}} ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 06:42, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
{{reflist-talk}}
===Master list complete===
See [[Module:Unicode chart/display]] and make any corrections/amendments as needed. Maybe I missed a few reading all those PDFs. Except for the CJK blocks where even "skimming" would be too generous a term. <s><code>display_NNNN</code></s> params will be whacked soon. ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 04:38, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
:{{removed}} ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 06:42, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
==Going horizontal==
| |||