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See [[Module:Unicode chart/display]] and make any corrections/amendments as needed. Maybe I missed a few reading all those PDFs. Except for the CJK blocks where even "skimming" would be too generous a term. <s><code>display_NNNN</code></s> params will be whacked soon. ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 04:38, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
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::I've reviewed the list and made some changes. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 17:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
==Going horizontal==
I've made the utf/html info slide to the right rather than downward when an alias list is present. Seems like a more efficient use of space. Seems to look okay next to the infamous BRAKCET correction, which I've confirmed is the longest string in the alias file. ―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 20:05, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
:I don't like the other information forced to the right when there's an alias. It's unexpected and I don't think the savings in vertical space makes up for it. Sorry, it just looks misaligned to me.
:Unrelated to the down vs. side option, I have two comments on the displayed information when you click on a code point:
:First, can we move the hex HTML escape sequence before the decimal one (&#x... / &#...)? I've never understood why someone would go through the trouble of calculating the decimal value of a code point in order to create an HTML escape sequence but maybe that's just me. In any case, having the hex value first would align nicer with the UTF-16 information directly above it. Hopefully the hex usage is more comman anyway so it would make sense putting it first.
:Second, instead of the wording "Introduced in Unicode version x", I'd like to use more precise wording that the source uses.[https://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/DerivedAge.txt] This wording change seems trivial but it gets around the messy issue of various pre-1.1 characters. If Age is 1.1 (the earliest shown in the file), it would say "Assigned as of Unicode 1.1". Otherwise it would say "Newly assigned in Unicode x". Thanks. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 17:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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―[[special:contributions/cobaltcigs|cobaltcigs]] 13:45, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
:I'd lean towards a jagged line like a ripped piece of paper but the thick black line is certainly noticable enough for the user to realize something's going on. I would, however, like the notes to say "heavy" or "thick" black line because every row has a "black horizontal line". [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 17:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
== Orientation of glyphs for vertical scripts ==
For scripts such as [[Template:Unicode chart Mongolian|Mongolian]] and [[Template:Unicode chart Phags-pa|Phags-pa]] which are written in vertical columns, the glyphs in the font have horizontal orientation so that complete runs of horizontal text can be rotated into vertical orientation by a higher level protocol (commonly [[CSS]]). Currently, in our code charts we rotate the glyphs into vertical orientation. This used to match the Unicode code charts, which used to show vertically-oriented glyphs for Mongolian and Phags-pa, but a few years back the editor of the Unicode code charts deliberately changed the Mongolian and Phags-pa code charts to show horizontally-oriented glyphs to reflect how the glyphs are represented at the font level. My question is, should we continue to rotate glyphs in the dynamic Mongolian and Phags-pa charts or should we leave them in horizontal orientation to match the current Unicode code charts? My preference is to rotate into vertical orientation as this matches user expectation (it is how Mongolian and Phags-pa glyphs are presented in books on these scripts). [[User:BabelStone|BabelStone]] ([[User talk:BabelStone|talk]]) 08:12, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
:I don't have a strong preference, although I do think Unicode showing them horizontally seems strange. Vertical seems better. [[User:Drmccreedy|DRMcCreedy]] ([[User talk:Drmccreedy|talk]]) 17:28, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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