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::::@[[User:CreativeName1|CN1]]: see my message addressed to Lmatt.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_November_6&diff=925007830&oldid=925006348] I'm afraid that like those two editors, your suggestions so far on these meta-categories are not gaining support, because they are likewise not intuitively clear. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 14:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Oculi|Oculi]] Okay, okay, but what is it specifically, that is not clear in these categories that the proposal mentiones or in my proposed approach? People so far did nothing but comparing me to a user who, as far as I understand, might have done some confusing categories, but as I see also did created extremely many useful categories. Just saying the categories are bad and confusing is not enough, WHAT is it about them that confuses you? [[User:CreativeName1|CN1]] ([[User talk:CreativeName1|talk]]) 12:34, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
::::::: Thanks CN1 ! [[User:Stefanomione|Stefanomione]] ([[User talk:Stefanomione|talk]]) 22:51, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:* Thanks. I presume we can now delete all categories nominated or created during this discussion. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:11, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
::: You're saying? [[User:CreativeName1|CN1]] ([[User talk:CreativeName1|talk]]) 12:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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::::: Stefanomione isn't blocked. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:32, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
:::::: Indeed. Rather, he is under a [[WP:TOPICBAN]] from working on categories. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 08:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
::::::: Thanks Fayenatic london ! [[User:Stefanomione|Stefanomione]] ([[User talk:Stefanomione|talk]]) 22:51, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:*It seems to me that these kinds of categories are considered not useful in general. I disagree with that because what they are doing is providing an overview on the differnet ways of '''categorizations''' itself: categorization by (1) topic, (2) time or (3) space / ___location. Naturally, the by far largest portion will be about categorizations by topic and here we need to make sure to have at least 2 categories: One that lists all the numerous '''topics''' (politics, history, ..) that are getting categorized and another category which lists several parameters [X] by which categories ('''topic not specified, hence »categories«''') are getting categorized: subcategories names have form (category by X). [[User:CreativeName1|CN1]] ([[User talk:CreativeName1|talk]]) 13:04, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
:* Categorically rejecting a naming syntax or type of categorization solely based on ... whatever reason you personally might have with it, is no good practise. I ask in which way letting the categories well alone and let people naturally further develop them to their liking would be disruptive to the rest of Wikipedia. Let it sit. Give it time. See for example [[:Category:Categories by geographical categorization]], it's 5 years old and is doing rather well. [[User:CreativeName1|CN1]] ([[User talk:CreativeName1|talk]]) 13:06, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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