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::*To solve the issue of multiple instances of "Twitter" being linked, I'd just drop the publisher completely and default to {{para|type|Tweet}}. It may be a semantical distinction, but Twitter doesn't actually cause any tweets to be published; the user tweeting does. They merely host the content, just as Google Books hosts copies of scanned books, and we'd never say Google actually published the books. (It's possible that Google published content that they host on Google Books, but it's also possible that Twitter itself tweets.)

::*The quote parameter is superfluous as the full tweet should be given.

::For additional ideas, we can consult guidelines from the [http://wwwwebarchive.mlaloc.orggov/all/20131110040530/http%3A//www%2Emla%2Eorg/style/handbook_faq/cite_a_tweet MLA] and the suggestion from the [http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Documentation/faq0164.html ''Chicago Manual of Style''], although CMOS quotes the full tweet in the prose and omits it from the footnote, relying on a reader's ability to locate it from the Twitter feed. <span style="background:#006B54; padding:2px;">'''[[User:Imzadi1979|<font color="white">Imzadi&nbsp;1979</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Imzadi1979|<font color="white"><big>→</big></font>]]'''</span> 07:12, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

:::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ACite_tweet%2Fsandbox&diff=655155932&oldid=655140355 These changes] implement your suggestions. Another point for discussion: At the moment, if {{para|user}} or {{para|number}} is ommitted, a junk url such as <nowiki>https://twitter.com/{{{user}}}/status/{{{number}}}</nowiki> is passed through to {{tl|cite web}}, and error messages regarding {{para|user}} and {{para|number}} are displayed. Another option would be to check the parameters, so that no url rather than a junk url is passed through – but not having a url results in the "Missing or empty |url=" error message, which is a bit deceptive as cite tweet doesn't have a |url= parameter. Any ideas on which is preferable, or if there is another option? - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:95%;">&#91;[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 08:18, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

::::Actually, I've just noticed that the missing url error message is hidden by default, so now the code checks that the parameters have been set - <u>'''[[User:Evad37|Evad]]''37'''''</u>&nbsp;<span style="font-size:95%;">&#91;[[d:w:User talk:Evad37|talk]]]</span> 09:55, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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|author=Mrs. M. Grieve

|accessdate=2008-08-20

|archiveurl= httphttps://web.archive.org/web/20080809232203/http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/a/apric050.html

|archivedate= 9 August 2008 <!--DASHBot-->

|deadurl= no}