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==== Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars ====

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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''no consensus'''. Another nomination may be needed, in which case please make a group nomination covering as much of [[:Category:People of the French Revolutionary Wars]] as needs renaming. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 08:02, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars]] to [[:Category:Habsburg Monarchy military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars]]

: The "Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars" has to be renamed, since the [[French Revolutionary Wars]] ended in 25 March 1802, while the [[Austrian Empire]] was created only in 1804. The proposed accurate description should be: "Category:Habsburg Monarchy military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars".([[User:KIENGIR|KIENGIR]] ([[User talk:KIENGIR|talk]]) 10:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC))

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# Delete [[:Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars by nationality]] and subcats (except French) in a separate discussion. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:04, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' - For GB/UK, 1792-1815 was a period of continuous war, with a short break in the middle. For some other countries, war was more intermittent, as French victories knocked them out of the war or made them French allies. Nevertheless the period c.1790-1815 constitutes a distinct historical period in which there was a lot of military activity. However there is no satisfactory global name for these wars, which is why I was suggesting the use of dates, when the discussion was more active a couple of months ago. This is complicated by the change in title of the Austrian ruler from Holy Roman Emperor to Emperor of Austria, which was much more a change of name than anything else. WP tends to treat successive names of countries as if they were distinct entities, when in fact there is much continuity. I therefore do not think that a split is the right answer. I would prefer us to go back to the suggested [[:Category:Habsburg Imperial military leaders 1790-1815]], which avoids naming the wars or splitting imperial titles. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 16:45, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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