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Why are you quoting the UN at me? I have already said that UN recognition or lack of it has to do with status de jure, not status de facto. The same goes for the G8. I was hoping that one of you might be able to offer some evidence as to why you think Kosovo is a province of Serbia de facto. That the UN Security Council, in which China and Russia can veto any statement they choose, or the G8, which needs Russia for consensus, would insist that secession is impermissible, or even insist that it has not taken place when it it has, is hardly proof of anything. For that matter, every state has an interest in the concept of territorial integrity. They have a conflict of interest; they are inherently biased. You’ve wasted a ''lot'' of breath countering a point that I did not make, and ignored the point I did. But discussing this isn’t going to work, obviously. Let’s just all congratulate ourselves on having won the argument — I know that is what ''you'' are doing — and drop it. <BR>— [[User:Ford|Ford]] 13:53, 2005 Jan 22 (UTC)
: '''To Ford''': Before we all congratulate ourselves, we need to step back for a minute. It is evident that when you see a statement claming that 'Kosovo is a province of Serbia under UN administration', you think about the definition of 'a province' as it is given by the American Heritage's foundation. When I see that statement, I see 'province' as something that refers to the (still) unchanged status of Kosovo as an autonomous province of Serbia - in essence, an administrational division of Serbia. Ford, I am not saying that you are wrong in your perception ''but'' if you want to be realistic you will have to admit that most (if not all) readers of the Wikipedia Kosovo article see the 'province' part as something that indeed refers to (still) unchanged internal composition of Serbia as a political entity. It is ''very'' unlikely that American Heritage's definition of a province goes flying in people's minds when they see the statement for the first time. As far as the article goes, claim that 'Kosovo is ''not'' a province of Serbia according to American Heritage Foundation's definition of a province (the definition is: this-and-that)' is a borderline (footnote) material at best; I am sure that there are other foundations or similar organisations around the globe that have their own definitions like that, and piling them all up in the article would be quite pointless. - 216.187.83.61
== Non-Kosovo Albanians in Kosovo? (re: Demographics) ==
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